From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] timer-list -> list-timers? Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 10:24:42 -0400 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87a81odt91.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <87zi9u1xx7.fsf@udel.edu> <83vakik2ad.fsf@gnu.org> <874ls21ngq.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> <87poale8vj.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87d16ljqec.fsf@yale.edu> <83a81pf9ge.fsf@gnu.org> <87vakdhul8.fsf@yale.edu> <87o9q4yjpu.fsf@udel.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1506003946 5513 195.159.176.226 (21 Sep 2017 14:25:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 14:25:46 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 21 16:25:36 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dv2Q0-0000hl-UW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 16:25:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53974 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dv2Q7-0002qb-Um for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 10:25:39 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46569) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dv2PX-0002qF-DQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 10:25:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dv2PU-00055V-8K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 10:25:03 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=41865 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dv2PU-00052y-15 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 10:25:00 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dv2PF-0006f5-TW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 16:24:45 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 26 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never Cancel-Lock: sha1:IatCfH9hxoBOb0eYUY0CM1GI6uw= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:218631 Archived-At: On Sat, 16 Sep 2017 11:11:00 -0400 Mark Oteiza wrote: MO> While I understand there is a push to keep everything always in its MO> own "namespace", list-foo is its own namespace, and is a useful one MO> that collects special listings of different things around emacs. On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 20:32:45 -0400 Mark Oteiza wrote: MO> jorge.alfaro-murillo@yale.edu (Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo) writes: >> So, I also have the same question as Ted: when is there a good reason >> to not follow the `-' naming convention? MO> One was stated in the OP. I saw it, but it was a bit ambiguous. A better guideline *might* be "if the *command* PACKAGE-list or PACKAGE-list-foo is in the core, loaded by default, and accessible through the menubar; and it brings up a standalone buffer listing objects with which the user can interact; it should have a `list-PACKAGE` or `list-foo' alias also loaded by default." This is less ambiguous. It could even be checked by a style checker. We can discuss the exact wording but I hope you see what I mean. Ted