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From: Tom Tromey <tom@tromey.com>
To: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Cc: rms@gnu.org, Pierre Neidhardt <ambrevar@gmail.com>,
	Noam Postavsky <npostavs@gmail.com>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org, van@scratch.space, eliz@gnu.org
Subject: Re: rx.el sexp regexp syntax
Date: Sun, 27 May 2018 10:56:36 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a7slyr3v.fsf@tromey.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180525155126.GA4096@ACM> (Alan Mackenzie's message of "Fri, 25 May 2018 15:51:26 +0000")

>>>>> "Alan" == Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> writes:

>> Building the automaton is costly.  In C, we build it once and save the
>> result in a variable so that every regexp match does not rebuild the
>> automaton each time.

Alan> Emacs has a (moderately large) cache of regexps, so that building the
Alan> automatons is done very rarely.  Possibly just once each for each
Alan> session of Emacs.

I wonder about both of these statements.

On the one hand, AFAICT the regex cache is 20 items.  From search.c:

   #define REGEXP_CACHE_SIZE 20

That seems pretty small to me, given how prevalent regexps are in elisp.

On the other hand, in the past when I have tried to profile Emacs, I
haven't seen regexp compilation show up too much.  IIRC I did see regexp
matching and the GC.  Maybe this just points out the efficacy of the
cache -- maybe 20 items is plenty.

Perhaps the regexp matcher could use some micro-optimizations, like the
token-threading the bytecode interpreter does.

Alan> Are you suggesting here building an interpreter in Lisp directly to
Alan> execute rx expressions?

It's interesting, IMO, to consider compiling rx (or regexps generally)
to lisp bytecode.  Perhaps with the JIT, it would boost performance in
some cases.  (It may be slower, but it's worthwhile to do the
experiment.)

For other work in this area see Stefan's lex-parse-re package.  I think
it includes a regexp matcher in elisp.

Tom



  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-05-27 16:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-24 10:47 rx.el sexp regexp syntax (WAS: Off Topic) Noam Postavsky
2018-05-24 10:58 ` Van L
2018-05-25  2:57 ` Richard Stallman
2018-05-25  8:52   ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-05-25 15:51     ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-05-25 16:47       ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-05-25 18:01         ` rx.el sexp regexp syntax Eric Abrahamsen
2018-05-25 18:12           ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-05-25 18:56             ` Eric Abrahamsen
2018-05-25 21:42               ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-05-25 21:51                 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2018-05-25 22:27                   ` Michael Heerdegen
2018-05-25 22:44                     ` Eric Abrahamsen
2018-05-27 20:27           ` Stefan Monnier
2018-05-28 16:37             ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-05-28 17:15               ` Stefan Monnier
2018-05-29  3:10                 ` Richard Stallman
2018-05-29  7:28                   ` Robert Pluim
2018-05-29  8:27                 ` Philipp Stephani
2018-05-30  3:24                   ` Richard Stallman
2018-05-30  7:25                     ` Robert Pluim
2018-05-31  3:53                       ` Richard Stallman
2018-05-31  8:57                         ` Robert Pluim
2018-05-31  4:13                       ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-05-31 14:19                       ` Stefan Monnier
2018-05-31 15:43                         ` Drew Adams
2018-05-31 16:12                           ` João Távora
2018-05-31 16:18                             ` Robert Pluim
2018-05-31 16:48                               ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2018-05-31 17:02                                 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2018-05-31 18:40                                   ` João Távora
2018-06-02 19:33             ` Eric Abrahamsen
2018-06-03  3:49               ` Stefan Monnier
2018-06-03  4:59                 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2018-06-03 14:51                 ` Helmut Eller
2018-06-03 15:15                   ` Eric Abrahamsen
2018-06-03 15:53                     ` Helmut Eller
2018-06-03 16:40                       ` Eric Abrahamsen
2018-06-03 19:57                       ` Drew Adams
2018-06-03 21:15                         ` Eric Abrahamsen
2018-06-03 23:23                           ` Drew Adams
2018-06-04 13:56                         ` Stefan Monnier
2018-06-04 15:24                           ` Drew Adams
2018-06-04 15:44                             ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-05-25 18:17         ` rx.el sexp regexp syntax (WAS: Off Topic) Alan Mackenzie
2018-05-25 20:35           ` Peter Neidhardt
2018-05-25 21:01           ` rx.el sexp regexp syntax Michael Heerdegen
2018-05-25 23:32             ` Peter Neidhardt
2018-05-27 16:56       ` Tom Tromey [this message]
2018-05-27 20:16         ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-05-27 20:23       ` Stefan Monnier
2018-05-27 20:16     ` Stefan Monnier
2018-05-28 16:36       ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-05-28 17:04         ` Stefan Monnier

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