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Fri, 10 Aug 2018 13:50:47 +0000 Original-Received: from c-73-16-70-190.hsd1.ma.comcast.net (EHLO localhost.localdomain) ([73.16.70.190]) by smtp413.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 53d1c0d5cf7d344e62b52060c241a96d; Fri, 10 Aug 2018 13:50:46 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <837ekyo8j9.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 10 Aug 2018 12:50:02 +0300") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:149412 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Live System User >> Cc: 31990@debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2018 04:53:16 -0400 >> >> >> It was done manually anew in each session, yes. >> > >> > Then you should be able to manually set the variables derived from the >> > auth file, no? >> >> Unfortunately, no, as there is only the variable `smtpmail-smtp-user' >> and no "smtpmail-smtp-password"-like variable... > > Then perhaps we should add them. Yes, although I would prefer that the solution would be more comprehensive and allow users to make first-time *authenicated* connections instead of retrying (with a subsequent prompt for the password) only after a first-time *unauthenicated* connection failure. This would better solve this issue and for bug#26359 as well. > I do consider yours a very strange use case, btw. I do it for my sense of privacy (as little as it may be). To each's own... Thanks.