From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: YUE Daian Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Time to consider/try Helm? 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X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::52f X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:118496 Archived-At: Hi Boris, For me it was from vanilla to ido to helm. Never looked back. There are many debates of choosing helm or ivy. Their user experience might be quite different. But both of them are far better than ido IMHO. My suggestion is you may try both and see which you like. As a helm user I would remind you that the behavior of can be customized... Danny On 2018-10-29 16:48, Boris Buliga wrote: > Hi Jonathon, > > For me it was a leap from ido to helm and then to ivy (counsel, swiper). > Not looking back at all. > > But helm definitely worth giving it a try. > > On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 at 14:45, Jonathon McKitrick > wrote: > >> I've been using emacs for nearly 20 years, and I try to update my packages >> and config regularly to improve usability and incorporate current >> development techniques. >> >> I went from IDO a few years ago to counsel and swiper. I've been hearing a >> lot about Helm, and I'm wondering if it's a revolutionary leap I should >> try, or an evolutionary step that isn't worth relearning my habits around. >> >> Does anyone have any similar experience with ido/counsel/helm? >> >> > > -- > Cheers, > Boris