all messages for Emacs-related lists mirrored at yhetil.org
 help / color / mirror / code / Atom feed
From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de>
To: "Garreau\, Alexandre" <galex-713@galex-713.eu>
Cc: 33225@debbugs.gnu.org, Noam Postavsky <npostavs@gmail.com>
Subject: bug#33225: [debbugs.el] Don't send control message immediately
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2018 11:30:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a7mrlqkt.fsf@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871s84g9cp.fsf@portable.galex-713.eu> (Alexandre Garreau's message of "Thu, 01 Nov 2018 15:28:54 +0100")

"Garreau, Alexandre" <galex-713@galex-713.eu> writes:

Hi Alexandre,

>> As mentioned in [1], I have a modified version of
>> debbugs-gnu-send-control-message which just creates the message (or
>> edits the current one) rather than sending it right away.
>
> I believe this is the most straightforward solution to the problem of
> control messages sending too fast for the newcomer user.

As you have seen the other message, I'm also in favor of this solution.

> However, I guess this is a feature more than a bug for most used
> users, and this would have been only useful for the first time to me,
> when I wanted to “test it to see how it looks” thinking of “cancelling
> at the last moment”, and discovered the mail was already sent before I
> could even understand what was happening (and take the time to
> document more myself on what was the control message really meaning).
> Sure if I saw a message-mode buffer before, at this moment, I’d have
> canceled, but that would only have been useful the first time: then it
> would have become tiring, so I would have disabled it to come back the
> simple behavior, and loose the benefit of the additional
> security-check step.

In fact I believe we shall offer both
functions. debbugs-gnu-send-control-message, without any confirmation,
is good for experienced users. When you are working on a bug triage, for
example, you need a fluid workflow, w/o interruption for confirmation
and alike.

> What I suggested later instead was asking for confirmation for certain
> control messages that might uselessly garble and bloat the bug history,
> while letting go more common and useful messages that might otherwise
> anyway be undone without semantic overhead [2], first suggestion was
> just about asking for confirmation about certain messages and not
> others, so I attach the already suggested [3] patch here for better
> referencing of it.  But in last message [2] I argued in favor of better
> discrimination among control messages and potentially clarifying their
> meaning and better linking doc.

I believe it is a matter of personal taste, which control messages need
a confirmation, and which not. And this will change also over the
time. Oce you know what "owner" is intended for, you don't need to
confirm this again and again.

What I could imagine is, that you implement an explanation for the
control messages, based on Noam's debbugs-control-make-message. This
needs an emhancement in the manuals, but I'm working on.

Best regards, Michael.





  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-02 10:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-01 12:29 bug#33225: [debbugs.el] Don't send control message immediately Noam Postavsky
2018-11-01 14:28 ` Garreau, Alexandre
2018-11-02 10:30   ` Michael Albinus [this message]
2018-11-02 10:23 ` Michael Albinus
2019-01-04 14:38   ` Michael Albinus
2019-02-27  8:45     ` Michael Albinus
2019-02-28  1:10       ` Noam Postavsky
2019-02-28  7:10         ` Michael Albinus
2019-03-30  2:43   ` Noam Postavsky
2019-03-31 10:21     ` Michael Albinus
2019-03-31 21:27       ` Noam Postavsky
2019-04-01  7:35         ` Michael Albinus
2019-04-01 13:34           ` Noam Postavsky
2019-04-01 14:52             ` Michael Albinus
2019-04-01 22:47               ` Noam Postavsky
2019-04-01 22:59                 ` Noam Postavsky
2019-04-02  5:52                 ` Michael Albinus

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=87a7mrlqkt.fsf@gmx.de \
    --to=michael.albinus@gmx.de \
    --cc=33225@debbugs.gnu.org \
    --cc=galex-713@galex-713.eu \
    --cc=npostavs@gmail.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this external index

	https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git
	https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git

This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.