From: Noam Postavsky <npostavs@gmail.com>
To: Sebastian Urban <mrsebastianurban@gmail.com>
Cc: 35044@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#35044: 25.2; Description of "disappearing" faces (Emacs Manual)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2019 16:59:23 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a7ghsqms.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e088307d-07ec-3a05-cc5b-5282080714e3@gmail.com> (Sebastian Urban's message of "Mon, 22 Apr 2019 22:03:18 +0200")
Sebastian Urban <mrsebastianurban@gmail.com> writes:
> I would like to remind that the target is someone new to Emacs or as
> I wrote before "(...) from perspective of *beginner* (...)". Now,
> which Emacs beginner will look into Elisp manual?
> buffer’s major mode tells Font Lock mode which text to fontify; for
> instance, programming language modes fontify syntactically relevant
> -constructs like comments, strings, and function names.
> +constructs like comments, strings, and function names. Any faces not
> +defined as font-lock-faces or by major mode will be ignored by Font
> +Lock mode, i.e. these faces will not be applied.
I'm unclear how this will help a beginner user. It sounds like
it's describing a potential source of buggy behaviour. But we don't
want the manual to excuse buggy behaviour, we rather want users to
report bugs.
> Maybe instead of "Any faces", "Most faces" should be used (I'm
> thinking about hardcoded faces for example).
Not sure what you mean by "hardcoded" faces.
>> If I understand correctly, this is rather a bug in table.el: it should
>> use 'font-lock-face instead of 'face, and then all this buggy
>> behaviour will go away. Perhaps you'd like to send a patch?
>
> Wouldn't this change ('face -> 'font-lock-face) also kill main problem
> of this bug(#35044) - disappearing face? Of course only for table.
Yes, I think so (that's what I meant by "all").
> Because if so, in addition to manual update, maybe a code update in
> table.el would be nice thing to do - kind of "2 for 1"?
>
> Unfortunately I'm last person who should do code updates right now -
> I didn't even finish first 14 chapters of Emacs manual... yet.
Jump in the deep end! You'll learn faster that way :)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-04-22 20:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-03-29 19:43 bug#35044: 25.2; Description of "disappearing" faces (Emacs Manual) Sebastian Urban
2019-04-16 21:33 ` Sebastian Urban
2019-04-17 12:59 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-04-19 20:19 ` Sebastian Urban
2019-04-17 17:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-17 22:37 ` Noam Postavsky
2019-04-18 2:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-19 20:32 ` Sebastian Urban
2019-04-19 21:47 ` Noam Postavsky
2019-04-20 6:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-22 20:03 ` Sebastian Urban
2019-04-22 20:59 ` Noam Postavsky [this message]
2019-04-24 22:01 ` Sebastian Urban
2019-04-26 12:49 ` Noam Postavsky
2019-04-27 15:55 ` Sebastian Urban
2019-04-27 21:20 ` Noam Postavsky
2019-04-28 21:17 ` Sebastian Urban
2019-04-28 21:22 ` Noam Postavsky
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