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From: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
To: "Basil L. Contovounesios" <contovob@tcd.ie>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: search-default-mode char-fold-to-regexp and Greek Extended block characters
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 21:40:12 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a7d2asu3.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ef2f0xx3.fsf@tcd.ie> (Basil L. Contovounesios's message of "Thu, 25 Jul 2019 01:18:16 +0100")

>>> because it does (upcase "ΐ") => Ϊ́
>>>
>>> That character is GREEK SMALL LETTER IOTA WITH DIALYTIKA AND OXIA, and
>>> as far as I can tell there is no CAPITAL variant of that letter, so
>>> upcase canʼt return it, which means it returns GREEK CAPITAL LETTER
>>> IOTA plus the diacriticals, which is obviously not going to
>>> match.
>>
>> This is an interesting case like (upcase "ß") => "SS" that required
>> adding (?ß "ss") to pass the tests.
>
> It is probably this way because all caps are not usually (if ever)
> accented in Greek, so the only time upper-case letters take accents is
> at the start of capitalised words, where dialytika can never appear, as
> dialytika only make sense on the second of two consecutive vowels.

Maybe only for searching purposes we could find all cases
where upper- and lower-case letters differ significantly and
add them to char-fold-include by default.

>> So I guess we need to add (?ι "ΐ") for the tests to pass:
>
> [...]
>
>> But this is only for char-fold--test-with-customization.  OTOH, for
>> char-fold--test-without-customization we need also to change the default
>> value in char-fold.el like:
>
> [...]
>
> Can you please explain why iota with dialytika and tonos needs to be
> special-cased in these places?

Here is the test case that demonstrates the need to add it
to char-fold-include:

0. emacs -Q
1. Paste this text to *scratch*: "ΐΐ"
2. Search for two IOTAs with char-fold, e.g.: C-s M-s ' ιι

The char-fold search doesn't match the characters with combining accents
with their base char GREEK SMALL LETTER IOTA.

However, after adding (?ι "ΐ") to char-fold-include it can match the
base character IOTA.



  reply	other threads:[~2019-07-25 18:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-19 14:18 search-default-mode char-fold-to-regexp and Greek Extended block characters Robert Pluim
2019-07-19 14:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-19 16:03   ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-19 18:13     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-21 11:03       ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-22 18:39         ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-23 14:57           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-23 17:43             ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-23 20:29               ` Juri Linkov
2019-07-24  7:56                 ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-24  7:59                   ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-24  9:04                 ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-24 23:12                   ` Juri Linkov
2019-07-25  0:18                     ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-07-25 18:40                       ` Juri Linkov [this message]
2019-07-25 20:44                         ` search-default-mode char-fold-to-regexp and Greek Extended block characters, " Robert Pluim
2019-07-25 21:35                           ` Juri Linkov
2019-07-26 11:09                             ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-26 18:38                               ` Juri Linkov
2019-07-29  8:32                                 ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-29 18:09                                   ` Juri Linkov
2019-07-30  8:09                                     ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-30 10:15                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-25  2:36                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-25  8:59                       ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-25 12:53                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-25  8:46                     ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-25 18:46                       ` Juri Linkov
2019-07-26  6:04                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-26 18:40                           ` Juri Linkov
2019-07-26 19:13                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-19 18:53 ` Juri Linkov

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