From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#21385: 24.5; Emacs Lisp Manual, section 17.3 "Debugging Invalid Lisp Syntax": wording can be improved Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2019 21:40:51 +0200 Message-ID: <87a7csfzcs.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> References: <55E44E0F.3040507@lsv.ens-cachan.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="176326"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 21385@debbugs.gnu.org To: phs Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 01 21:42:08 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1htGxk-000jko-5X for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 01 Aug 2019 21:42:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58722 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1htGxj-0007Fp-3g for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 01 Aug 2019 15:42:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46687) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1htGwl-0007Ec-AF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Aug 2019 15:41:12 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1htGwh-0007PW-SX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Aug 2019 15:41:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:46506) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1htGwg-0007PC-Fc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Aug 2019 15:41:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1htGwg-0002lz-Cd for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Aug 2019 15:41:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2019 19:41:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21385 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 21385-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21385.156468845710634 (code B ref 21385); Thu, 01 Aug 2019 19:41:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 21385) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Aug 2019 19:40:57 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55326 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1htGwb-0002lS-6M for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 01 Aug 2019 15:40:57 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:45066) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1htGwZ-0002lJ-Ny for 21385@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 01 Aug 2019 15:40:56 -0400 Original-Received: from 77.18.62.220.tmi.telenormobil.no ([77.18.62.220] helo=sandy) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1htGwW-0003IN-Fu; Thu, 01 Aug 2019 21:40:54 +0200 In-Reply-To: <55E44E0F.3040507@lsv.ens-cachan.fr> (phs@lsv.ens-cachan.fr's message of "Mon, 31 Aug 2015 14:52:31 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:164264 Archived-At: phs writes: > I needed help with finding the location of a spurious closing parenthesis and > the manual was very helpful. > > Here I'm talking about sections 17.3.* of the Emacs Lisp Manual at > http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/ > > However, I think these sections would be better/clearer if (at some place) > they explicitly mentioned by name the command `backward-up-list' invoked > via C-M-u rather than just give cryptic key sequences. Also, this could > perhaps support a link to the appropriate section (curr. 26.4.2) of the Emacs > manual for more details on the function. (I'm going through old bug reports that have unfortunately not gotten any responses.) Hm... Well, reading that section and the following nodes ("Excess Open"), it seems like it's written in a tutorial-ish fashion. I think perhaps that dropping in that level of low-level details would make it less readable. So I'm closing this bug report. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no