From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#19812: 24.4; suggest `shell-mode' not interactive Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2019 13:11:40 +0200 Message-ID: <87a7cqld03.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> References: <87bnl5qc50.fsf@blah.blah> <87v9vfmjke.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> <87v9vf2kdw.fsf@blah.blah> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="137916"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 19812@debbugs.gnu.org To: Kevin Ryde Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 03 13:12:23 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1htrxX-000Zib-7J for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 03 Aug 2019 13:12:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39336 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1htrxW-00042c-AR for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 03 Aug 2019 07:12:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43334) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1htrxF-0003yA-VH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Aug 2019 07:12:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1htrxD-0000ve-KN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Aug 2019 07:12:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:49527) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1htrxC-0000uk-Fi for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Aug 2019 07:12:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1htrxC-0004wL-9W for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Aug 2019 07:12:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2019 11:12:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19812 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 19812-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19812.156483071018971 (code B ref 19812); Sat, 03 Aug 2019 11:12:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 19812) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Aug 2019 11:11:50 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58348 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1htrwx-0004vt-U6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 03 Aug 2019 07:11:50 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:45710) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1htrwu-0004vj-NV for 19812@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 03 Aug 2019 07:11:46 -0400 Original-Received: from 77.18.62.220.tmi.telenormobil.no ([77.18.62.220] helo=sandy) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1htrwr-0003kn-Oj; Sat, 03 Aug 2019 13:11:44 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87v9vf2kdw.fsf@blah.blah> (Kevin Ryde's message of "Sat, 03 Aug 2019 09:54:51 +1000") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:164429 Archived-At: Kevin Ryde writes: > Maybe :interactive, just to write it in the positive sense. The default > must be t for compatibility. That makes sense, and is easy to implement in this case. We usually treat the absence of a parameter the same as nil (since Emacs Lisp isn't Common Lisp), but we don't have to do that here. > A couple of words in the docs could note that special modes usually > should be nil. True, but I don't think we need to limit the interactivity here, though. When there's little chance of confusion, having the mode be interactive isn't that big a deal (and might be useful for somebody, sometime). -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no