From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?B?R8O2a3R1xJ8=?= Kayaalp Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: "modern" colors Re: Changes for emacs 28 Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2020 14:10:10 +0300 Message-ID: <87a6xvtfn1.fsf@gkayaalp.com> References: <87y2lkb6kb.fsf@gmail.com> <9A4FA038-CCFD-45DF-8B57-E348AFF951D9@gmail.com> <87sgbsb0eb.fsf@gmail.com> <20200909165723.kdnwicwvplmezusr@Ergus> <20200910102000.2t6tsju745xutg7u@Ergus> <20200910110832.ko66gqnqo4l664d6@Ergus> <20200911134225.zhnlq7cdhmu2iraj@Ergus> <87d02rc2p6.fsf@posteo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="21487"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: mu4e 1.2.0; emacs 28.0.50 Cc: Ergus To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 12 13:11:04 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kH3Qu-0005UX-Co for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2020 13:11:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58914 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kH3Qt-0004tk-El for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2020 07:11:03 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:47492) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kH3Q9-0004Oa-6g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2020 07:10:17 -0400 Original-Received: from relay1-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.193]:59675) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kH3Q7-0004pl-8c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2020 07:10:16 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 149.0.50.61 Original-Received: from localhost (unknown [149.0.50.61]) (Authenticated sender: self@gkayaalp.com) by relay1-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2DAC0240003; Sat, 12 Sep 2020 11:10:11 +0000 (UTC) In-reply-to: <87d02rc2p6.fsf@posteo.net> Received-SPF: none client-ip=217.70.183.193; envelope-from=self@gkayaalp.com; helo=relay1-d.mail.gandi.net X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/12 07:10:12 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255298 Archived-At: On 2020-09-12 02:29 +03, Philip K. wrote: > If this is modern, I'd very much argue against modernizing. [...] > Maybe it would be better to aim for "Timeless", instead of "Modern". A m e n. Emacs has an aesthetic. We may improve it, but must preserve it. The great beauty of it is that, like Vim or shell prompts, people with diverging aesthetical preferences may make it look exactly the way they want. One guy who publishes often on /r/emacs is making pixel perfect stuff, very beautiful and minimalist UX-wise. Calls it "Elegant Emacs" I guess. But while it=E2=80=99s cool to look at I=E2=80=99d hate to have t= o work with it. The beauty of Emacs and similar is, everybody can have what they want, what comes OOTB is but a canvas. @Ergus: Off topic, but would you mind clipping out irrelevant parts of the quoted messages when replying? Not a huge thing but makes it just a little bit more easier on the reader. -- =C4=B0. G=C3=B6ktu=C4=9F Kayaalp / @cadadr / pgp: 024C 30DD 597D 142B 49AC 40EB 465C D949 B101 2427