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From: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@catern.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: arnold@tdrhq.com, dgutov@yandex.ru, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca,
	Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/16] Speeding up DEFVAR_PER_BUFFER
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 11:28:27 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a6v9jqz8.fsf@catern.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <837dqdxtea.fsf@gnu.org>

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> Thanks, but could you perhaps provide a more detailed overview of the
> general idea of the changeset?  It is not easy to glean that from 16
> patches, each one describing only the details of its narrow goal.
> Please include in the more detailed overview indications what parts of
> the series are really needed to speed up buffer-local variables and
> which are cleanups in the areas of the changes not directly related to
> speeding things up.

Patch 1 and 2 are tests; patch 15 is the speed-up change. Patches 3
through 14 all change the existing abstractions so that patch 15 can be
small, and should have no impact. Patch 16 is a followup further cleanup
enabled by 15. Only 15 should have any meaningful performance impact.

>> I have an idea which would allow avoiding the mass change, if that's
>> desired, which also has some additional benefits.  We could define
>> getter functions (marked as inline) for each Lisp_Object field, and
>> have BVAR call those field-specific getter functions by forming the
>> name of the getter through token pasting.  The boilerplate of the
>> getters would be kept under control by using an X macro to define both
>> the fields in struct buffer and the getters. Something like:
>> 
>> #define FIELD_LIST \
>>   C_FIELD(name) \
>>   C_FIELD(filename) \
>>   ...
>>   LISP_FIELD(mode_line_format) \
>>   ...
>> 
>> And then "instantiating" FIELD_LIST twice in two different contexts to
>> define the Lisp_Object fields and the getters.
>
> I don't think I have a clear idea of what will this mean in practice.
> Can you show an example of its usage?

There is a decent example on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Macro

In our case, it would be something like
struct buffer {
#define C_FIELD(field) Lisp_Object field;
#define LISP_FIELD(field) Lisp_Object field;
       FIELD_LIST
#undef C_FIELD
#undef LISP_FIELD
}

#define C_FIELD(field) Lisp_Object bget_ ## (struct buffer *b) \
{ return b->field ## _; }
#define LISP_FIELD(field) Lisp_Object bget_ ## (struct buffer *b) \
{ return bvar_get(b, offsetof(struct buffer, field)); }
       FIELD_LIST
#undef C_FIELD
#undef LISP_FIELD

#define BVAR(b, field) bget_ ## field (b)

>> Regardless of what approach we take, at least some level of
>> benchmarking will be necessary.  Is there an established benchmark
>> suite for these kinds of changes?
>
> Is benchmark-run what you are after?  Or are you asking what use cases
> of buffer-local bindings to use inside the benchmark?  If the latter,
> then I guess some simple example with binding case-fold-search
> followed by some regexp search would do, if you do that with various
> numbers of live buffers in the session.

Ah, no, I mean benchmarking the rest of Emacs to see the impact.  I've
already benchmarked these changes on the case they're intended to fix.
Old results, but no change in this iteration:

(benchmark-run 500000 (let ((case-fold-search nil)) (string-match "" "")))
; unpatched emacs: (0.6872330339999999 0 0.0)
; patched emacs: (0.608068564 0 0.0)
(setq my-buffer-list nil)
(dotimes (idx 1000) (push (get-buffer-create (format "test-buffer:%s" idx)) my-buffer-list))

(benchmark-run 500000 (let ((case-fold-search nil)) (string-match "" "")))
; unpatched emacs: (18.591189848 0 0.0)
; patched emacs: (0.5885462539999999 0 0.0)
	



  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-22 16:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-14 16:34 ido-switch-buffer is slow with many buffers; others are fast catern
2020-11-14 18:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-14 20:06   ` sbaugh
2020-11-14 23:00     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-14 23:16 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-11-15  0:19   ` Spencer Baugh
2020-11-15 15:15     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-15 20:49       ` Spencer Baugh
2020-11-15 23:58         ` Arnold Noronha
2020-11-19 15:38         ` [PATCH 00/10] Speeding up DEFVAR_PER_BUFFER (Was: ido-switch-buffer is slow) Spencer Baugh
2020-11-19 17:29           ` [PATCH 00/10] Speeding up DEFVAR_PER_BUFFER Stefan Monnier
2020-11-22  2:34           ` [PATCH v2 00/16] " Spencer Baugh
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 01/16] Add a test for let-binding unwinding Spencer Baugh
2020-11-25 20:53               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-30 17:31                 ` Spencer Baugh
2020-12-01 16:44               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 02/16] Assert not local-variable-p after setq in let_default binding Spencer Baugh
2020-11-25 20:54               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-01 16:45               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 03/16] Stop checking the constant default for enable_multibyte_characters Spencer Baugh
2020-11-25 20:57               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-01 16:52               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 04/16] Take buffer field name in DEFVAR_PER_BUFFER Spencer Baugh
2020-12-01 16:56               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 05/16] Add BVAR_DEFAULT for access to buffer defaults Spencer Baugh
2020-12-01 17:00               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 06/16] Use bset_* functions instead of BVAR Spencer Baugh
2020-12-01 17:12               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 07/16] Take offset not idx in PER_BUFFER_VALUE_P Spencer Baugh
2020-12-01 17:20               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 08/16] Combine unnecessarily separate loops in buffer.c Spencer Baugh
2020-12-01 17:22               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 09/16] Add and use BUFFER_DEFAULT_VALUE_P Spencer Baugh
2020-12-01 17:24               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 10/16] Add and use KILL_PER_BUFFER_VALUE Spencer Baugh
2020-12-01 17:26               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 11/16] Assert that PER_BUFFER_IDX for Lisp variables is not 0 Spencer Baugh
2020-12-01 17:32               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 12/16] Rearrange set_internal for buffer forwarded symbols Spencer Baugh
2020-12-01 17:35               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 13/16] Get rid of buffer_permanent_local_flags array Spencer Baugh
2020-11-22 16:16               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-01 17:39               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 14/16] Remove unnecessary Qunbound check Spencer Baugh
2020-12-01 17:40               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 15/16] Remove local_flags array in struct buffer Spencer Baugh
2020-11-22 20:04               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-01 17:57               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 16/16] Remove usage of buffer_local_flags Spencer Baugh
2020-12-01 18:05               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22 11:19             ` [PATCH v2 00/16] Speeding up DEFVAR_PER_BUFFER Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-11-22 16:12             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22 16:28               ` Spencer Baugh [this message]
2020-11-22 17:13                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-29 17:41                   ` Spencer Baugh
2020-11-30 18:32                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-30 20:11                       ` Spencer Baugh
2020-11-30 22:10                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-30 22:26                           ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-12-01 15:15                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-01 15:56                             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-01 15:10                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-01 15:20                           ` Spencer Baugh
2020-12-01 16:01                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-01 16:16                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-01 18:10                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22 20:11                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-19 15:38         ` [PATCH 01/10] Take buffer field name in DEFVAR_PER_BUFFER Spencer Baugh
2020-11-19 15:38         ` [PATCH 02/10] Add bset_save_length and use it Spencer Baugh
2020-11-19 15:38         ` [PATCH 03/10] Use bset_last_selected_window everywhere Spencer Baugh
2020-11-19 15:38         ` [PATCH 04/10] Use bset_enable_multibyte_characters everywhere Spencer Baugh
2020-11-19 15:38         ` [PATCH 05/10] Add BVAR_DEFAULT for access to buffer defaults Spencer Baugh
2020-11-19 15:38         ` [PATCH 06/10] Disallow using BVAR as an lvalue Spencer Baugh
2020-11-19 15:38         ` [PATCH 07/10] Reorder buffer.h for upcoming rework of BVAR Spencer Baugh
2020-11-19 15:38         ` [PATCH 08/10] Make cache_long_scans buffer-local when setting it Spencer Baugh
2020-11-19 15:38         ` [PATCH 09/10] Access buffer_defaults in BVAR if there's no local binding Spencer Baugh
2020-11-19 18:08           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-19 18:21             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-19 15:38         ` [PATCH 10/10] Don't iterate over all buffers in set_default_internal Spencer Baugh
2020-11-19 18:21           ` Stefan Monnier

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