all messages for Emacs-related lists mirrored at yhetil.org
 help / color / mirror / code / Atom feed
From: "Basil L. Contovounesios" <contovob@tcd.ie>
To: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
Cc: 34765@debbugs.gnu.org, alexanderm@web.de,
	Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>,
	monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA
Subject: bug#34765: 26.1; with-temp-buffer should not run buffer-list-update-hook
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 20:33:01 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a6uyoa9u.fsf@tcd.ie> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b0367dba-9dc3-793a-8e6b-f81b85367c72@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Mon, 30 Nov 2020 20:01:48 +0100")

martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at> writes:

>> Should we expose a getter or setter for this buffer member, or is that
>> opening ourselves up to abuse?
>
> I'm not sure.  But if we do that, we can get rid of the rest: We'd just
> generate the new buffer and set/reset its hook inhibitor afterwards.

Not necessarily, because Fget_buffer_create still has to run the hook
before returning the buffer.

>>> And also tell us why 'buffer-list-update-hook' would be still needed now
>>> that we have 'window-selection-change-functions'.
>>
>> I've yet to look into these hooks and their precise semantics, but are
>> you suggesting that one might obsolete the other, in which case we
>> should deprecate the old one?
>
> People usually don't care about the buffer lists, they always wanted to
> run a hook when a window got selected in a more permanent fashion.  At
> the time of adding 'buffer-list-update-hook', I thought that it
> fulfilled some of the criteria wanted for a 'select-window-hook' and
> added text in that sense to the manual.  So if you care about the buffer
> lists, 'buffer-list-update-hook' is the one to use.  If you care about
> window selection, 'window-selection-change-functions' is the one.

Thanks, then it sounds to me like there's nothing to be done, other than
recommend the right hook for the right job.  Right?

-- 
Basil





  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-30 20:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-03-05 22:57 bug#34765: 26.1; with-temp-buffer should not run buffer-list-update-hook Alexander Miller
2019-03-06  9:39 ` martin rudalics
2019-03-06 11:29 ` Alexander Miller
2019-03-06 14:13   ` martin rudalics
2019-03-06 15:41     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-06 17:57       ` martin rudalics
2019-04-23  9:21         ` martin rudalics
2019-04-23 10:36           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-24  7:27             ` martin rudalics
2019-04-24 11:12               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-24 12:55                 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-04-25  8:06                 ` martin rudalics
2019-04-25  8:50                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-25 10:31                     ` martin rudalics
2019-04-25 10:49                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-26  7:40                         ` martin rudalics
2019-04-26  8:09                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-25 13:01           ` Stefan Monnier
2019-04-25 14:34             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-26  7:41               ` martin rudalics
2019-04-26  8:10                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-26  7:41             ` martin rudalics
2019-04-26  8:10               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-26 11:00                 ` martin rudalics
2019-04-26 11:26                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-27  8:30                     ` martin rudalics
2019-04-26 17:14                   ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-04-27  8:31                     ` martin rudalics
2019-05-20 13:42                       ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-05-21  7:32                         ` martin rudalics
2019-05-21  7:58                           ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-05-21 10:04                             ` martin rudalics
2019-05-22  7:29                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-22  8:32                                 ` martin rudalics
2019-05-22 10:06                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-23  8:38                                     ` martin rudalics
2019-05-23 14:37                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-24  8:01                                         ` martin rudalics
2019-05-22 14:12                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-22 15:50                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-22  7:21                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-26 11:06                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-05  7:05                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-07  3:27                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-07  7:58                         ` martin rudalics
2020-11-29 21:03                           ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-11-30  9:05                             ` martin rudalics
2020-11-30 18:07                               ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-11-30 19:01                                 ` martin rudalics
2020-11-30 20:33                                   ` Basil L. Contovounesios [this message]
2020-12-01  9:34                                     ` martin rudalics
2020-11-30 19:42                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-30 20:34                                   ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-12-07 22:16                                     ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-12-07 22:37                                       ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-12-08  8:09                                         ` martin rudalics
2020-12-14 21:03                                           ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-12-15 16:03                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-15 16:24                                               ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-12-18 14:57                                       ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-12-18 15:36                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-18 18:49                                         ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-12-19 10:33                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-19 14:15                                             ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-12-19 16:06                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-19 21:10                                                 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-12-20 15:05                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-07  6:18 ` Alexander Miller
2019-03-07  8:29   ` martin rudalics
2019-03-07  9:44     ` Alexander Miller
2019-03-07 13:46       ` martin rudalics
2020-12-20 17:57 ` Basil L. Contovounesios

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=87a6uyoa9u.fsf@tcd.ie \
    --to=contovob@tcd.ie \
    --cc=34765@debbugs.gnu.org \
    --cc=alexanderm@web.de \
    --cc=larsi@gnus.org \
    --cc=monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA \
    --cc=rudalics@gmx.at \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this external index

	https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git
	https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git

This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.