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Sun, 23 May 2021 12:52:06 +0300 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1621763526; bh=r7MgY4IN01F2NTeVLvJ4X5HS15L0RlTfIiVN91c6RBU=; h=In-Reply-To:Subject:To:From:Message-ID:Cc:Cc:Date:References; b=s84DoHX0Mj93dmnZGEn7yO0p7yENTdw7GHxTrfm+zFDZfdSdS1oupsI95Jq1nsZZQ oBLyY5erqrYzNxOX2IRieQM5f7in/p/aDkveiWpqjYrIGghlp2ZUdRqwIrm+0Tiv7h wfDnSig9Dk4gvtZKQ93x4hES5QrBrHnFrHx/BdTc= Authentication-Results: myt6-5c8bb24560be.qloud-c.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.com Original-Received: by myt5-ca5ec8faf378.qloud-c.yandex.net (smtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id bDXyDXJd15-q5KCo82K; Sun, 23 May 2021 12:52:05 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) X-Face: BHjiJOg/Qmj'BQgsAKL@])L)e62P)C"Y=6T In-Reply-To: <837djpkd8k.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 23 May 2021 12:31:39 +0300") Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAEkAAAATAgMAAAChCMjeAAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAACVBMVEX/zAABCWP///8I RHjYAAAAAWJLR0QCZgt8ZAAAAAlwSFlzAAALEwAACxMBAJqcGAAAAAd0SU1FB+UFEAk5BvqS634A AAAbSURBVBjTY2BgCA1hYA0FAxDDgQEERsXoIAYA2F9Eb3cpB+AAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6Y3JlYXRl ADIwMjEtMDUtMTZUMTA6NTY6MTcrMDE6MDCh/kkpAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOm1vZGlmeQAyMDIxLTA1 LTE2VDA5OjU3OjA2KzAxOjAwTyZ6HwAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:207079 Archived-At: >>>>> Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Jonas Bernoulli Cc: >> 48592@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Sun, 23 May 2021 10:43:40 +0200 >> >> >> this also adds support for using "Authors" and "Maintainers" >> as the >> names of the header fields instead of just the singular >> forms. >> > >> > Why do we need these additions? >> >> OCD and grammar. >> >> > Couldn't we keep using Author and Maintainer? >> >> Of course. But why? > To keep Emacs smaller and less complex. >> > Having both variants immediately begs the question which is >> preferable > and why, arguments about style, and other >> bikeshedding. >> >> The answer seems obvious to me. Do it like (nearly?) all natural >> languages do it: If n=1 then singular, else (n>1) plural. >> >> > Unless there's a good reason for adding new headings, I'd >> prefer to > make do with what we already have. >> >> Grammatical mistakes tend to be distracting, especially if you >> see the same one over and over again, year after year. >> >> I was expecting this to be noncontroversial. ;) > See above. > But maybe I'm the odd one out here. Does anyone else have an > opinion on adding these headers? I would argue that in this case, the terms Author, Maintainer includes the plurals since they name the sets whose elements are various authors, maintainers. An example would be BibTeX, whose field AUTHOR and include multiple names separated by the conjunction 'and'. Best wishes,