From: Kevin Vigouroux via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: "larsi@gnus.org" <larsi@gnus.org>,
"21695@debbugs.gnu.org" <21695@debbugs.gnu.org>,
"rms@gnu.org" <rms@gnu.org>
Subject: bug#21695: 25.0.50; Change most occurrences of `setq' in Emacs manual to `customize-set-variable'
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2021 11:54:07 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a6kuhtmo.fsf_-_@laposte.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <SJ0PR10MB5488754B4EFEB4C540701EFFF3CE9@SJ0PR10MB5488.namprd10.prod.outlook.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Thu, 2 Sep 2021 17:08:10 +0000")
In my opinion, the issue is that the language (ELisp) should always be
able to express things, in a general way. But here, the risk is to not
be able to understand how things work without digging into the
“Customize” interface or to be overwhelmed by a ton of code. At first
sight it is easier but the path is already paved. The alternative I was
talking about and which is recommended in the ELisp manual: each user
option should indicate how to proceed (without using too many tricks).
Otherwise, I don't see much point in learning Emacs Lisp anymore (you
might as well refer to the Customize interface entirely, a kind of
“black box”). In short, what is proposed is in my opinion
counterproductive.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-09-03 9:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-10-16 21:50 bug#21695: 25.0.50; Change most occurrences of `setq' in Emacs manual to `customize-set-variable' Drew Adams
2015-10-16 23:57 ` Drew Adams
2021-05-26 22:30 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-08-29 19:05 ` Drew Adams
2021-08-29 22:36 ` Drew Adams
2021-08-29 22:52 ` Drew Adams
2021-08-29 22:58 ` Drew Adams
2021-08-31 3:06 ` bug#21695: 25.0.50; Change most occurrences of `setq' in Emacs manual to `customize-set-variable'? Really? Richard Stallman
2021-08-31 3:43 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-31 16:15 ` bug#21695: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-08-31 16:15 ` Drew Adams
2021-09-02 6:53 ` Kevin Vigouroux via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-09-02 17:08 ` Drew Adams
2021-09-03 9:54 ` Kevin Vigouroux via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors [this message]
2021-09-01 3:07 ` Howard Melman
2021-09-02 3:42 ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-02 6:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-02 17:08 ` bug#21695: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-09-02 17:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-05 3:42 ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-05 3:43 ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-06 17:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-08 3:23 ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-08 7:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-09 3:11 ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-09 6:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-09 7:43 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-09 11:44 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-09 12:07 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-09 12:12 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-09 12:15 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-09 12:40 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-09 12:47 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-09 13:04 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-09 13:10 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-09 14:27 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-10 10:15 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-10 14:26 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-12 8:23 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-12 8:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-12 9:30 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-12 9:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-12 9:54 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-12 10:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-12 10:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-12 21:26 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-12 22:11 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-13 7:04 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-13 9:11 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-13 9:18 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-13 13:00 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-13 13:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-13 12:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-13 11:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-13 8:03 ` martin rudalics
2021-09-13 9:14 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-13 12:36 ` martin rudalics
2021-09-13 12:52 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-15 9:27 ` martin rudalics
2021-09-15 10:00 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-15 20:13 ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-16 6:56 ` martin rudalics
2021-09-18 0:30 ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-18 7:34 ` martin rudalics
2021-09-18 9:20 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-13 1:17 ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-10 3:41 ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-10 13:49 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-13 1:17 ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-02 17:08 ` bug#21695: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-09-05 3:42 ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-04 3:38 ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-01 12:48 ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-09-02 3:38 ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-02 6:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-02 17:07 ` bug#21695: [External] : " Drew Adams
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