From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Po Lu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Awful completion buffer behaviour Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2021 20:56:00 +0800 Message-ID: <87a6gspzmn.fsf@yahoo.com> References: <878rwdtjum.fsf.ref@yahoo.com> <878rwdtjum.fsf@yahoo.com> <83o858yf4w.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="30217"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.60 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 22 13:57:08 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n01B6-0007e4-J8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2021 13:57:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51710 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n01B4-0001ma-EL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2021 07:57:07 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:54834) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n01AC-0000sP-Nv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2021 07:56:12 -0500 Original-Received: from sonic307-56.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([66.163.190.31]:43964) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n01AA-0004fh-Vu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2021 07:56:12 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1640177769; bh=J2vmtu/JnT/HSMU2T8g4chWe9/WIoyNMUVhFghmNe+A=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From:Subject:Reply-To; b=OBoov882SGMYZzRuz3ypURM7jmdnwTNd3U9CvvGcVO42bfMmC+9OTVXOGdpZbzBjbwrzFgE5JS7a8daduebvYpEkKaaz3opX1k0GX8EkWinELXDJoweyJ5zw0tj7v/uyhKVlkK3mrBeT3Gar++zF1xpYOwrk63U7LfhsRvrO0scai7coFrwObCVx/nDDc+zqNWmPXaoUNMvPX63t7OtWmiZwxnXfjYn0R8gNJdQgmbPyzK4eosgyWgJY8E+U3ShsFW4xlFImGmfabqZajDuJl0bG+4QMprtEBhQN9r+lWz8u5qKv5eBRljwXwdtAxZHDZbDXLhUgetvx8mhhNj7c9A== X-SONIC-DKIM-SIGN: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1640177769; bh=xG5pOrcw8dDUcE29FGHwE/Y46I+b3I7oGygPR2dbOiZ=; h=X-Sonic-MF:From:To:Subject:Date:From:Subject; b=m6oyEtes8Vs7Uu+6xZ5ZRU73ioF2Ss+O6LNSSyEXKZx4+g+TQ2VtFjzKmNkyIL3V0mgY/y9sbALudMqV3UzTnxa+I7dF9RJ6pcGzpIR63OD9usMZasFMsq6x2q3lh+oX/i0CLl33//djKSiVu1xeefMPgBpnDgML85VQJtObcdcQ4cc0Aa29rMp2XJLNKgcwmxV6+n7pPueqqdlOIr2pEfb4az4+Ky17UUrYGC6tt51MJqC8gltbg8JJhabF33gc59DkZTAFWF6CEqPGXX/gj2MxtimjqvKvz7dNre6ruTmfKQjbunlOhK/7BFo79EetA9JmD2s2wPpX4vIYY+3cAQ== X-YMail-OSG: 5ywFNr0VM1mivbsXp8BxLswmyFoJVFtAxdwabFu73aTfZ6yc02Rp.Sbn1r4whAC Dmd1ckLdb_CEJZlMPvNBakxLm.q4Lzz_carj6nQbjdw67xA32oRQ.oW2szouAjCtsS6KMSY7KiPL cdAUPBEl.sd7wZGUm7Jlwtzug16hFvVN160rx4ii2BKo1OXiRSTzXa2qFe7q0qZEwZ4YFRGuiG__ FhLQqyiWjIPjvWw3ZKIQQYB_PVC6EBTzp3uQ1EFt12aDVL4CfUPylpuAqoX7sr0t8LSyCQZLd0_f N9jc.1v4KM7.EZKBqJUIRlLslIv5k7V6okFQciCRUDQVLibCRcx4dyIUC8ATgUI_O8BnnpBgqGyO Xb_FMX01aKqwk28WgE2hQXV4ulgd9iglBpuaFEGl.3Prm0Gzhc7Dm.yIb_WurR8rZKzSVLdtsZse BTdQD_pnJJGbPyCnT8AouTDx2KkKLxZq6dSnBlsQGd9t2vDw9Qevziy0.yRan5wVAdInY.Nb16de tabpXw91rKuZhX4Bbww.YkJ_FNn7o82SG5GQqF8kn6Z1zRgzESGJ1mb.yzFNZ6mTWVRhGdoC8FE3 F9DSBYXQJ6C_ZjU8srJ2sbkFyfcGJsjRfpD943JetvZiDQO.d8TmwY0uOS5s1IMX_AwP1CZicLWV Jke18qc77S2JOYc7BVmYTZ9zrv4sOqMuuuyiJ1L_1JauSdPfAHPQQyyCiMkATQu7NiUh082LaDm5 Egslkx92HskLPStqC1M6A4Ai8dEWj6R3qQc2_B5nrgoqFUUyqaJmUbCK.hQlrIg30dY.Gh1soDCF 4EJr2d.DygbvmvP2nD0904EWfZPJ9DerQgzYUzMmdz X-Sonic-MF: Original-Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic307.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Wed, 22 Dec 2021 12:56:09 +0000 Original-Received: by kubenode517.mail-prod1.omega.sg3.yahoo.com (VZM Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 4f924ddc38732c2177108a6938d53955; Wed, 22 Dec 2021 12:56:05 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <83o858yf4w.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 22 Dec 2021 14:53:51 +0200") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.19498 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.163.190.31; envelope-from=luangruo@yahoo.com; helo=sonic307-56.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:282720 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > I agree that this new behavior is an unpleasant surprise for me. > > I'm not sure I understand the purpose of the month-long experiment > with turning this on by default. Is it to decide whether it will stay > on in Emacs 29? If so, the experiment can be terminated now: we will > not make this the default, certainly not in Emacs 29, and maybe not > even in Emacs 30. It is too radical departure of age-old Emacs > behavior in the default completion commands. Thanks, will you mind if I install a change that documents the option in the NEWS entry and changes its default value to nil now? Thanks.