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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:284228 Archived-At: >>>>> Robert Pluim writes: >>>>> On Wed, 05 Jan 2022 17:17:12 +0800, LdBeth said: >>>>> In <87bl0q8vfa.fsf@yahoo.com>=20 >>>>>>> Po Lu wrote: >>> Most people were certainly happy for at least the past decade. LdBeth> I think saving custom set variables to init file somehow LdBeth> prevents using byte compiled init.el file effectively LdBeth> (unless the user hooks auto compile whenever it is changed LdBeth> by emacs). From that perspective, I'm happy to see that this LdBeth> behavior is to be changed. > This is one of the two things that people do with Emacs that I > just don=CA=BCt understand. My init file contains setq and > custom-set-variables and key bindings. Any actual code that would > benefit from byte-compilation is stored in separate files. So why > do people byte-compile their init files? Well, I can't speak for "people" but I can say why I byte compile my ~/.emacs, which I've done for many years. I have found it to be a useful check on my lisp in finding silly errors. It has also on more than one occasion allowed me to run emacs when my ~/.emacs was either corrupted or "helpfully" over-written by some application. I wouldn't tell other users to do the same - what they do is up to them. Colin