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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:286308 Archived-At: Philip Kaludercic writes: > Hi Lars, > > I'm glad to see the recent addition of the setopt macro. Indeed, it's a great addition. > - While I don't mind it really, I can imagine that others might object > to the "long" name, when compared to setq. Would a default alias like > "seto" or "setc" be worth it or not? I think setopt is enough. "seto" might be confused with oset, while I don't immediately see what "setc" is supposed to represent. What I find problematic is the large scale replacement of `custom-set-variables' with setopt in the user manual. I think there was once a specific reason to use `custom-set-variables' there, but I can't remember what.