From: Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl>
To: Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu>
Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Is there a way of setting a variable only when it exists?
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2022 07:17:42 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a6drviwp.fsf@mbork.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <878rtcir1h.fsf@zoho.eu>
On 2022-03-14, at 14:48, Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> wrote:
> Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor wrote:
>
>>> I assume it would be fairly easy to code such a macro
>>> (using `boundp'), but maybe it exists already?
>>
>> AFAIK it doesn't exist yet. The reason for it is that it is
>> not often useful. Typically there are two cases:
>>
>> - If the var exist, you want to set it and if not you have
>> no fallback. In that case, it is typically harmless to set
>> the var even when it doesn't exist, so the code just uses
>> `setq` without bothering to test `boundp`.
>>
>> - If the var exist you want to set it, and if it doesn't you
>> want to do something else. In that case, the something
>> else tends to depend on the specifics so (if (boundp 'foo)
>> (setq foo ..) ...) is about s good as it gets.
>
> If it exists set it with `setq'. If it doesn't exist, create
> and set it ... with `setq'?
What if it's an internal Emacs variable which might become a user option
one day (I submitted a bug report about it) and then my customization
silently disappears? It's the "silently" part I want to guard
against...
Best,
--
Marcin Borkowski
http://mbork.pl
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-03-15 6:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-03-14 6:00 Is there a way of setting a variable only when it exists? Marcin Borkowski
2022-03-14 12:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-03-14 13:16 ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-03-14 13:48 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-03-15 6:17 ` Marcin Borkowski [this message]
2022-03-15 6:50 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-03-15 6:58 ` Jean Louis
2022-03-15 7:45 ` Marcin Borkowski
2022-03-15 8:12 ` Jean Louis
2022-03-15 7:49 ` tomas
2022-03-15 8:13 ` Jean Louis
2022-03-15 8:36 ` tomas
2022-03-15 9:28 ` Jean Louis
2022-03-15 10:01 ` tomas
2022-03-15 11:29 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-03-15 8:14 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-03-15 15:33 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-03-15 15:38 ` Drew Adams
2022-03-16 18:32 ` Marcin Borkowski
2022-03-16 0:47 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-03-16 18:33 ` Marcin Borkowski
2022-03-16 6:02 ` Tomas Nordin
2022-03-16 6:37 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-03-16 18:34 ` Marcin Borkowski
2022-03-15 6:48 ` Jean Louis
2022-03-14 22:09 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-03-15 6:16 ` Marcin Borkowski
2022-03-15 7:05 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-03-16 0:25 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-03-16 18:33 ` Marcin Borkowski
2022-03-16 19:25 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-03-18 5:58 ` Marcin Borkowski
2022-03-16 20:35 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-03-17 20:47 ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-03-18 5:59 ` Marcin Borkowski
2022-03-18 17:59 ` Jean Louis
2022-03-19 9:25 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
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