From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ihor Radchenko Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#64596: 30.0.50; On FIXME: in src/buffer.c:1481 (force-mode-line-update) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2023 17:46:09 +0000 Message-ID: <87a5vyidy6.fsf@localhost> References: <877cr4nez9.fsf@localhost> <83lefj4okb.fsf@gnu.org> <83fs5r3tqv.fsf@gnu.org> <834jm6fppc.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="15894"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 64596@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 14 19:47:35 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qKMtC-0003ld-94 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 14 Jul 2023 19:47:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qKMsj-0002xJ-B8; Fri, 14 Jul 2023 13:47:05 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qKMsh-0002wZ-3W for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jul 2023 13:47:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qKMsg-0007JB-S2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jul 2023 13:47:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qKMsg-00006V-Dt for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jul 2023 13:47:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Ihor Radchenko Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2023 17:47:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 64596 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 64596-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B64596.1689356773337 (code B ref 64596); Fri, 14 Jul 2023 17:47:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 64596) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jul 2023 17:46:13 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43428 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qKMrt-00005L-F1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jul 2023 13:46:13 -0400 Original-Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]:57263) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qKMrr-000056-Ey for 64596@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jul 2023 13:46:12 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5442C240027 for <64596@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 14 Jul 2023 19:46:05 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1689356765; bh=VCbTpzeGwhcVNJ9JMvaaNLsh4gkmfJPZbcAcYQQiJnc=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:From; b=XRfMdGr2w8MqQ4Cop/juFA9AWuw02nKrNWfNFfVS+5VbEQWnBvSIPA6xR8eIF8fFW P4znTljfrpPm4K6VkrI5AWd5fE6zIQfPIbe3GKdfTt96DnLWDGptKlHywD0EmadFef Rr2UfJ+l5se3VQw+dQPpEls4Vs+tba0cThT5O2QHpo6M4+9e7eEsr9mqWJ1DE+UbpS XL/ZRLUy01sB4/XFZ//gpG3CBd1lHTVzMCxat7XC1NLudoRKz21rLk27v9dXH6r3rg CwdWgfpaZfQo8kzDp0bpDbslmTTghjq/TfY2tzvW2koWDxrVFNqzpQw6iERrahHzxQ mzJ8AyMPKj2tQ== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4R2f645JTgz6tvh; Fri, 14 Jul 2023 19:46:04 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:265118 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > What we need in order to investigate is a somewhat reproducible test > case and for that we need the bug to be exposed to as many users as > possible to increase the chance that one of them bumps into > a good recipe. > > The variable is not used to investigate, but to make it ethical to > expose users to those potential bugs because they can set the var to > recover the old behavior as soon as they're tired of playing the > guinea pig. +1. Somewhat orthogonal, but related: if there are people who want to live dangerously (even more dangerously than on master), it might be interesting to have some kind of flip like "give me all the cutting edge experimental features enabled, even if not backward-compatible". -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at