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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:308863 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Philip Kaludercic writes: > Thierry Volpiatto writes: > >> Philip Kaludercic writes: >> >>>> No don't worry, helm will work in any cases, thanks. >>> >>> OK, in that case I'd prefer to keep it the way it is. >> >> Ok, fair enough. >> >>>>> Mainly to avoid issues with packages that might place files in the >>>>> configuration directory, which might hinder the reproduction of bugs. >>>> >>>> Hmm, maybe, I don't have an example in mind though. >>> >>> It might not be the best example, but my package autocrypt generates a >>> file in the `user-emacs-directory'. If we don't use --init-directory, >>> the existing file would be re-used. >> >> Ok, for such case it is easy to either rename the file temporarily to >> foo_ori or foo_save or to set the variable handling the file (generally >> it is not harcoded) to something else. But another issue is if your >> isolated package needs the history file or tramp file or whatever file >> ~/.emacs.d is handling; e.g. a package providing completion on history. >> I still think it is more handy to reuse user-emacs-directory and its >> elpa directory where the packages are already installed. > > How about this patch, that will use a temporary directory when > `package-isolate' is invoked with a prefix argument (not sure what the > default should be, I guess reusing `user-emacs-directory' is less > surprising): However it is not working properly: Tried to isolate two packages, osm and w3m, and osm use compat as dependency: Unable to activate package =E2=80=98osm=E2=80=99. Required package =E2=80=98compat-29.1.4.0=E2=80=99 is unavailable With my simple version of package-isolate I have not this error, both osm w3m are installed correctly. (defun package-isolate (packages) "Start an uncustomised Emacs and only load a set of PACKAGES." (interactive (list (completing-read-multiple "Packages: " (mapcar #'car (package--alist))))) (let* ((name (concat "package-isolate-" (mapconcat #'identity packages ",= "))) (deps (cl-loop for p in packages for sym =3D (intern p) nconc (package--dependencies sym)))) (apply #'start-process (concat "*" name "*") nil (list (file-truename (expand-file-name invocation-name invocation-directory)) "--quick" "--debug-init" (format "--eval=3D%S" `(progn (require 'package) (setq package-load-list ',(append (mapcar (lambda (p) (list (intern p) = t)) packages) (mapcar (lambda (p) (list p t)) deps)= )) (package-initialize))))))) > [2. text/x-diff; 0001-Add-command-to-start-Emacs-with-specific-packages.p= atch]... =2D-=20 Thierry --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQHHBAEBCgAxFiEEI9twfRN7r3nig/xwDsVtFB0W75MFAmTeKBgTHHRoaWV2b2xA cG9zdGVvLm5ldAAKCRAOxW0UHRbvk5uLDACGqGDFUQA+SqVxdrmgcxrOsFWpOufE JZX2m+9637YMBR1KJWhdlQrI3nKunqEeeM7srLMNHv92fuAcoNRK9SSFbf1PAdBu p7AEb6Z0GsOPPztrCO8B5dJk842zyTuR0Gl5+PCvIfxSFiEVi3u+d+tR2DSt0Bjk D7VmfV2G70QJQdNPD0zZbb13cc6cBAJnTveBOvXEWnqtWz2TdowFYEkGEEZ/3r/m 4PIEPZSM/qDBU5iznVwFmTgZMT/kZ584YTtPNJ0DgDHhJ9OENySYvRruhyhiSpNP jrmHMrQ9DLM4OxnAMJZb8A22VvHfKA6IW49GD+Bs0BjYoyYDpdy+9OsJ3ph6jkbc 4YaVyjF38pm3ckK1pClAkK6cbMgKZSvaP5U6pnsaK285FjwDtcbIycM5cVECSYqs N5nx/50Env0iiN/jISaFt4crcmHrNv0zNFJF4xh0JFY1JgyHWDJt/mrsAqVtTeSW K4vidStImzFFWbDVnXZbyRRD2SdVo4iQRHM= =7kcT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--