From: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
To: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
Cc: Corwin Brust <corwin@bru.st>,
69132@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca
Subject: bug#69132: [ELPA] Remove jQuery from elpa.gnu.org
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2024 12:00:52 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a5nswvwr.fsf@posteo.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1rccmW-0006Hb-KR@fencepost.gnu.org> (Richard Stallman's message of "Tue, 20 Feb 2024 21:56:24 -0500")
Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:
> > As stated: I think it is *not* possible to perform this type of
> > "client-side" search without using Javascript.
>
> There are two fully moral ways to implement a search feature for a web
> site. One is to implement it inside the web server. The other is to
> communicate with a free program that the user has installed in per
> computer, and could replace with any other.
In this case, both options would be overkill. The search functionality
does little more than just hiding a few elements from a table. In
practice, it don't offer much more than using the built-in C-f search
functionality, that every browser provides.
[...]
> We could overcome this wih a documented API that users could
> optionally use for ELPA search. It would provide the package list
> data in a form convenient for programs. Users could write their own
> code, in Javascript or in some other language, to operate on the API
> output to customize the search as they like. This would provide the
> benefit you call for, in an even more general way.
ELPA already has a format for listing packages in an archive, and just
like with browsers, it wouldn't really provide anything that M-x
list-packages and C-s doesn't already do.
> (Is there a semistandard web convention for specifying API versions so
> you can say, "Give me this data in the format we used in June 2022"?)
>
> Meanwhile, the rest of us, we who don't use that API, would not be
> asked to run any code straight off the web server.
>
> In a later message you said this:
>
> > As the entire functionality it provides is just an optional, superficial
> > enchantment (one that I almost never use), I don't think this is worth
> > pursuing. All the ways I can imagine to achieve this would be less
> > convenient hacks.
>
> Assuming you're talking about the same Javascript code, how about
> directing users to install that code into their browsers themselves
> (if they want this optional, superficial <what?>), and giving them a
> link to it.
We should be talking about the same code; I am not sure what you mean by
instructing users to install the code themselves? Are you talking about
user-scripts?
> That would avoid the moral problem of Javascript sent implicitly to
> browsers, and these few users would have only a little work to do to
> set it up.
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Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-02-14 19:41 bug#69132: [ELPA] Remove jQuery from elpa.gnu.org Philip Kaludercic
2024-02-14 23:05 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-02-15 8:12 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-02-15 11:07 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-02-15 15:37 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-02-17 18:25 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-02-17 20:57 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-17 21:04 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-02-17 22:26 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-17 22:44 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-02-17 22:49 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-18 4:05 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-02-18 12:14 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-18 14:13 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-02-18 14:24 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-18 14:37 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-02-18 14:38 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-18 3:28 ` Richard Stallman
2024-02-18 4:07 ` Corwin Brust
2024-02-18 4:20 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-02-21 2:56 ` Richard Stallman
2024-02-22 12:00 ` Philip Kaludercic [this message]
2024-02-25 3:13 ` Richard Stallman
2024-02-25 10:55 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-02-25 15:18 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-02-18 15:07 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-02-18 18:19 ` Corwin Brust
2024-02-24 10:03 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-02-25 10:06 ` Daniel Mendler via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-02-25 10:44 ` Philip Kaludercic
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