From: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
To: Adam Porter <adam@alphapapa.net>
Cc: incal@dataswamp.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Add seq-shuffle
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2024 18:37:18 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a5g62kkh.fsf@posteo.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <14bc4905-38b4-459d-8522-7cc33bbadd18@alphapapa.net> (Adam Porter's message of "Mon, 16 Sep 2024 14:17:14 -0500")
Adam Porter <adam@alphapapa.net> writes:
> Hi Emanuel,
>
> That's a neat and concise solution. It seems to produce a decently
> random sorting, but I'd guess that it may not perform well for large
> sequences. For example:
>
> (let (comparisons)
> (list :result (seq-sort (lambda (a b)
> (push (cons a b) comparisons)
> (zerop (random 2)))
> (number-sequence 0 10))
> :num-comparisons (length comparisons)))
> ;; (:result (6 0 9 1 5 10 8 2 7 3 4) :num-comparisons 26)
>
> In testing that expression repeatedly, I see that the number of
> comparisons varies between about 23 and 26.
>
> Thanks for pointing it out, though. It's good to know that it exists
> and in what circumstances it could be useful.
IIRC the approach is related to the "Naïve method" mentioned on
Wikipedia [0]. I think that this variation of your code demonstrates
that not all elements are considered equally often:
(let ((comparisons '()))
(list :result
(seq-sort (lambda (a b)
(cl-incf (alist-get a comparisons 0))
(cl-incf (alist-get b comparisons 0))
(zerop (random 2)))
(number-sequence 0 10))
:num-comparisons
(seq-sort (lambda (x y)
(< (cdr x) (cdr y)))
comparisons)))
;; (:result
;; (9 0 1 7 4 10 5 6 8 3 2)
;; :num-comparisons
;; ((0 . 2) (10 . 3) (8 . 3) (9 . 4) (7 . 4) (6 . 4) (4 . 5) (2 . 5) (3 . 7) (1 . 7) (5 . 8)))
While acceptable as a personal hack, it a proper solution should do
Fisher–Yates. Adding a "shuffle" function to Emacs would also eliminate
the excuse to use suboptimal fallbacks.
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fisher%E2%80%93Yates_shuffle#Na%C3%AFve_method
>
> --Adam
>
>
--
Philip Kaludercic on siskin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-09-17 18:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-09-14 7:48 Add seq-shuffle Hugo Thunnissen
2024-09-14 8:42 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-16 5:08 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-09-16 19:17 ` Adam Porter
2024-09-17 4:09 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-09-17 18:37 ` Philip Kaludercic [this message]
2024-09-17 22:26 ` Adam Porter
2024-09-18 1:27 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-09-17 18:53 ` Yuri Khan
2024-09-15 1:44 ` Adam Porter
2024-09-15 6:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-15 6:45 ` Adam Porter
2024-09-15 11:58 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-09-15 7:48 ` Hugo Thunnissen
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