From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sean Whitton Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Question about `cond*' Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2024 13:18:36 +0800 Message-ID: <87a5fl228j.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> References: <864j5v3jdd.fsf@gnu.org> <8734lfhet5.fsf@posteo.net> <87y135257r.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="4280"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: rms@gnu.org, philipk@posteo.net, michelangelo.rodriguez@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Alfred M. Szmidt" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 03 07:19:53 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1swEFl-0000x4-0P for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 03 Oct 2024 07:19:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1swEEn-00009E-EN; Thu, 03 Oct 2024 01:18:53 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1swEEk-00008y-2m for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Oct 2024 01:18:50 -0400 Original-Received: from sendmail.purelymail.com ([34.202.193.197]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1swEEi-0007aM-K3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Oct 2024 01:18:49 -0400 DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; b=dEuekyae8mMKwSsJk9dcCo8kUeEC5wp2A7BXyLJCIeGXgymCUt4xqCFH1kCm9Kv/a/x4HICri26jjzxnS0ROd0NOwVyjja9pQSkYn7cKcpKXbJlMFNovsmXAdR633sJtlPTSgbg84vSE3aZTXtuPd4yALdBqntFdx6fhU6zcafI4RbM7IfT+EOOu7JEIgmj8nao138JR/ug+WRtGbMQC7HmFKl6sTaPofMLs5EaVZKnuIl8t1uqbWrsYEXOiWeBYeIY4Yv16StyjYW+MPRBsqrgRl+I/dxPxBTVYl+YEHZe6gsjnMp9rvgzoPUJ+dUW1iHp4uc9m5C9cyd5fY0FUOA==; s=purelymail2; d=spwhitton.name; v=1; bh=kIxjUtGw6edGhV6a8e9YHmmKnFDk46ySvXaxmq7s4IA=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date; DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; b=OcR3uCMMHOtU0xT8/PhNXIbH7YeNehhc5wVuiiMQ/5+Us3pRz7n7I2R937mqk4kAstn8uPTtQQzu7BfDOdCKebzeZZoMvbEqqj8denzRQ1kaZlvBEw7czaDgo4Sa6L3Gfq9GDQdbgWq3LptzJLgZgZh+qnU+DCMrpQ2O7lqWeLt8uBrljCy+7gY3gmotCbxaWeQU6ioWMEmWqmjQiKrU6XV1ZlE/YyeG1TwQDwjPJ2aMvpToWJupPPAoqzekd6S3N9mTfGS5+souOlJ8zuwJmRRq9A/Z6A7neCBqltsyrKji9M1jV4gX3EIH2pvasYfSsahCB1CcPPM9bw5avayQjw==; s=purelymail2; d=purelymail.com; v=1; bh=kIxjUtGw6edGhV6a8e9YHmmKnFDk46ySvXaxmq7s4IA=; h=Feedback-ID:Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date; Feedback-ID: 20115:3760:null:purelymail X-Pm-Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Received: by smtp.purelymail.com (Purelymail SMTP) with ESMTPSA id -60676195; (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384); Thu, 03 Oct 2024 05:18:39 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: by melete.silentflame.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 545147E187B; Thu, 3 Oct 2024 13:18:36 +0800 (CST) In-Reply-To: (Alfred M. Szmidt's message of "Thu, 03 Oct 2024 00:51:37 -0400") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=34.202.193.197; envelope-from=spwhitton@spwhitton.name; helo=sendmail.purelymail.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_CERTIFIED_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:324266 Archived-At: Hello, On Thu 03 Oct 2024 at 12:51am -04, Alfred M. Szmidt wrote: > cl-lib isn't preloaded for other reasons (Emacs Lisp isn't Common > Lisp), cond* is part of the Emacs Lisp language, and that would be a > good reason to preloaded it so that it can be more widley used. There are criteria for preloading, and they do not, to my knowledge, include ideas like these, which, in any case, aren't shared by everyone. Anyway, I'll leave this to the head maintainers. -- Sean Whitton