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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:325149 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: "Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" >> Cc: dmitry@gutov.dev, johan.myreen@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org >> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2024 17:52:24 +0100 >>=20 >> C-h p is neat! (I didn=E2=80=99t know about it =E2=80=94 thank you!) >>=20 >> Most packages it shows me are built-in. Do I guess it right that the >> reason is that most elpa and melpa packages don=E2=80=99t use package ke= ywords? > > I don't know. Maybe Philip (CC'ed) does. I wouldn't say most, according (let ((count 0)) (dolist (desc package-archive-contents) (unless (package-desc--keywords (cadr desc)) (message "Keyword for %s" (car desc)) (cl-incf count))) (/ (float count) (length package-archive-contents))) it is about 20%, which is more than I assumed, but certainly not a rule. What I think is the issue here is that finder only lists installed packages, which would explain why most are built-in. A different issue is that not all packages use keywords that are listed under `finder-known-keywords'. >> Is there something similar for file-extensions? Do you mean suggestions for packages based on file extension? I wrote up a draft for something like that a while back but never got around to finishing it. If you want to, I can try to create a scratch/ branch in emacs.git to make it easier to try it out? > You mean, find a mode that handles files of certain extensions? No, I > don't think so. But I also don't really understand why you'd need > that, since the appropriate mode will be turned on automatically when > you visit such a file. --=20 Philip Kaludercic on siskin