Looking for new fixed font for Emacs

Looking for new fixed font for Emacs

[Torsten Bronger]

Halloechen!

So far, I've used

(set-default-font "10x20")

which I like very much, but with my new screen resolution I need a
bigger one.  12x24 looks silly in my opinion.  I'd prefer something
that has the typical fixed pitch look of 10x20.pcf.  Any
suggestions?

Thank you!

Tschoe,
Torsten.

-- 
Torsten Bronger, aquisgrana, europa vetus

Re: Looking for new fixed font for Emacs

[Kai Grossjohann]

Torsten Bronger <bronger@physik.rwth-aachen.de> writes:

> which I like very much, but with my new screen resolution I need a
> bigger one.  12x24 looks silly in my opinion.  I'd prefer something
> that has the typical fixed pitch look of 10x20.pcf.  Any
> suggestions?

I like the GNu intlfonts.  But I'm not sure if there is a font that
is *this* big.

Kai

Re: Looking for new fixed font for Emacs

[Henrik Enberg]

Torsten Bronger <bronger@physik.rwth-aachen.de> writes:

> Halloechen!
>
> So far, I've used
>
> (set-default-font "10x20")
>
> which I like very much, but with my new screen resolution I need a
> bigger one.  12x24 looks silly in my opinion.  I'd prefer something
> that has the typical fixed pitch look of 10x20.pcf.  Any
> suggestions?

terminus has large sizes and is attractive.

<http://www.is-vn.bg/hamster/jimmy-en.html>

Re: Looking for new fixed font for Emacs

[Torsten Bronger]

Halloechen!

Henrik Enberg <henrik.enberg@telia.com> writes:

> Torsten Bronger <bronger@physik.rwth-aachen.de> writes:
>
>> So far, I've used
>>
>> (set-default-font "10x20")
>>
>> which I like very much, but with my new screen resolution I need a
>> bigger one.  12x24 looks silly in my opinion.  I'd prefer something
>> that has the typical fixed pitch look of 10x20.pcf.  Any
>> suggestions?
>
> terminus has large sizes and is attractive.
>
> <http://www.is-vn.bg/hamster/jimmy-en.html>

This looks promising, so I installed it.  In
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, I've had so far my old font (well, I
*think* that this is what's loaded by the above Elisp command):

10x20-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz   10x20-ISO8859-16.pcf.gz  10x20-ISO8859-8.pcf.gz
10x20-ISO8859-10.pcf.gz  10x20-ISO8859-2.pcf.gz   10x20-ISO8859-9.pcf.gz
10x20-ISO8859-11.pcf.gz  10x20-ISO8859-3.pcf.gz   10x20-KOI8-R.pcf.gz
10x20-ISO8859-13.pcf.gz  10x20-ISO8859-4.pcf.gz   10x20.pcf.gz
10x20-ISO8859-14.pcf.gz  10x20-ISO8859-5.pcf.gz
10x20-ISO8859-15.pcf.gz  10x20-ISO8859-7.pcf.gz

Now, there is also

ter-114b.pcf.gz  ter-528n.pcf.gz  ter-d24b.pcf.gz  ter-k16n.pcf.gz
ter-114n.pcf.gz  ter-532b.pcf.gz  ter-d24n.pcf.gz  ter-k20b.pcf.gz
ter-116b.pcf.gz  ter-532n.pcf.gz  ter-d28b.pcf.gz  ter-k20n.pcf.gz
ter-116n.pcf.gz  ter-914b.pcf.gz  ter-d28n.pcf.gz  ter-k24b.pcf.gz
ter-120b.pcf.gz  ter-914n.pcf.gz  ter-d32b.pcf.gz  ter-k24n.pcf.gz
ter-120n.pcf.gz  ter-916b.pcf.gz  ter-d32n.pcf.gz  ter-k28b.pcf.gz
ter-124b.pcf.gz  ter-916n.pcf.gz  ter-f14b.pcf.gz  ter-k28n.pcf.gz
ter-124n.pcf.gz  ter-920b.pcf.gz  ter-f14n.pcf.gz  ter-k32b.pcf.gz
...

fonts.dir is updated, and the X server restarted.  But what to put
in .emacs? For example, (set-default-font "ter-114n") doesn't work.

Tschoe,
Torsten.

-- 
Torsten Bronger, aquisgrana, europa vetus

Re: Looking for new fixed font for Emacs

[Christian Gudrian]

Torsten Bronger wrote:

> fonts.dir is updated, and the X server restarted.  But what to put
> in .emacs? For example, (set-default-font "ter-114n") doesn't work.

Put the following into your ~/.Xdefaults

emacs.font: -xos4-terminus-medium-r-normal--14-140-72-72-c-80-iso8859-15

If you prefer a different font take a look at the fonts.dir file of the 
respective directory to find the exact font specifier for the resource line.

Or try to use the xfontsel tool which is kind of like a graphical front 
end to browsing the fonts.dir files by hand.

HTH,

Christian

Re: Looking for new fixed font for Emacs

[Torsten Bronger]

Halloechen!

Christian Gudrian <Christian.Gudrian@gmx.de> writes:

> Torsten Bronger wrote:
>
>> fonts.dir is updated, and the X server restarted.  But what to put
>> in .emacs? For example, (set-default-font "ter-114n") doesn't work.
>
> Put the following into your ~/.Xdefaults
>
> emacs.font: -xos4-terminus-medium-r-normal--14-140-72-72-c-80-iso8859-15

With this, I get the error message during startup: "Font `terminus'
is not defined".  The backtrace is

Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error "Font `terminus' is not defined")
  modify-frame-parameters(#<frame emacs@wilson.rwth-aachen.de 0x86142e8> ((font . "terminus")))
  set-default-font("terminus")
  eval-buffer(#<buffer  *load*> nil "~/.emacs" nil t)
  ;;; Reading at buffer position 5813
  load-with-code-conversion("/home/bronger/.emacs" "~/.emacs" t t)
  load("~/.emacs" t t)
  #[nil "\bฬ

The funny this is that the font is used, but the startup phase is
interrupted and thus Emacs is not fully functional.

Tschoe,
Torsten.

-- 
Torsten Bronger, aquisgrana, europa vetus

Re: Looking for new fixed font for Emacs

[Christian Gudrian]

Torsten Bronger wrote:

It is not the ~/.Xdefaults entry that causes the error.  It's this line 
in your ~/.emacs:

>   set-default-font("terminus")

You should remove this line from your ~/.emacs.  There is no need to 
tell emacs which font it should use.  X takes care of all of this when 
there is a font resource entry in your ~/.Xdefaults.

HTH,

Christian

Re: Looking for new fixed font for Emacs

[Torsten Bronger]

Halloechen!

Christian Gudrian <Christian.Gudrian@gmx.de> writes:

> Torsten Bronger wrote:
>
> It is not the ~/.Xdefaults entry that causes the error.  It's this
> line in your ~/.emacs:
>
>>   set-default-font("terminus")
>
> You should remove this line from your ~/.emacs.  There is no need
> to tell emacs which font it should use.  X takes care of all of
> this when there is a font resource entry in your ~/.Xdefaults.

Ah! Okay, it works now, thank you.  Rather illegible font though ...
:-/

10x20.pcf is pretty optimal: It's sans serif, yet not too simple
letterforms; all stems are quite thick; no rounding errors in a
rasterising process that lead to sub-optimal shapes.  It's simply
very well readable.  But 126 columns are too much.  :-(

Tschoe,
Torsten.

-- 
Torsten Bronger, aquisgrana, europa vetus

Re: Looking for new fixed font for Emacs

[Stefan Monnier]

> But 126 columns are too much.  :-(

Huh?!?!?
I doubt it's the "excessive" number of columns that bothers you.
After all, nobody forces you to use them all.

You probably meant something like "it's still too small/condensed and tires
my eyes".  Or what exactly did you mean?


        Stefan "whose 250 columns are never enough"

Re: Looking for new fixed font for Emacs

[Torsten Bronger]

Halloechen!

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

> [...]
>
>> But 126 columns are too much.  :-(
>
> Huh?!?!?
> I doubt it's the "excessive" number of columns that bothers you.
> After all, nobody forces you to use them all.
>
> You probably meant something like "it's still too small/condensed
> and tires my eyes".

Of course I meant that.  But, given certain common boundary
conditions as far as the physical size of the screen is concerned,
this and the number of columns are inextricably intertwined.  :-)

Tschoe,
Torsten.

-- 
Torsten Bronger, aquisgrana, europa vetus

Re: Looking for new fixed font for Emacs

[Henrik Enberg]

Torsten Bronger <bronger@physik.rwth-aachen.de> writes:

> Henrik Enberg <henrik.enberg@telia.com> writes:
>
>> Torsten Bronger <bronger@physik.rwth-aachen.de> writes:
>>

[...]

>>> which I like very much, but with my new screen resolution I need a
>>> bigger one.  12x24 looks silly in my opinion.  I'd prefer something
>>> that has the typical fixed pitch look of 10x20.pcf.  Any
>>> suggestions?
>>
>> terminus has large sizes and is attractive.
>>
>> <http://www.is-vn.bg/hamster/jimmy-en.html>
>
> This looks promising, so I installed it.  In
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, I've had so far my old font (well, I
> *think* that this is what's loaded by the above Elisp command):

[...]

> fonts.dir is updated, and the X server restarted.  But what to put
> in .emacs? For example, (set-default-font "ter-114n") doesn't work.

You can use the xfontsel program to find out proper X11 names for
fonts.  "xfontsel -print" will probably save you some typing.

Re: Looking for new fixed font for Emacs

[Thien-Thi Nguyen]

Henrik Enberg <henrik.enberg@telia.com> writes:

> "xfontsel -print" will probably save you some typing.

for hours of fun, there is also:

http://www.glug.org/people/ttn/software/ttn-pers-elisp/
       dist/lisp/low-stress/set-font-at-point.el

(note: url split into two lines.)

thi

Re: Looking for new fixed font for Emacs

[Chris Green]

Henrik Enberg <henrik.enberg@telia.com> writes:

> terminus has large sizes and is attractive.
>
> <http://www.is-vn.bg/hamster/jimmy-en.html>

This is a very nice looking font.   The only problem for my emacs
config is there's not a oblique or italic version of this font.

Does anyone have a recommendation that includes bold, oblique, and
medium versions?

My current settings are:

Emacs.default.attributeFont: -adobe-courier-medium-r-normal--12-120-75-75-m-70-iso8859-1
Emacs.italic.attributeFont: -adobe-courier-medium-o-normal--12-120-75-75-m-70-iso8859-1
Emacs.bold.attributeFont: -adobe-courier-bold-r-normal--12-120-75-75-m-70-iso8859-1
-- 
Chris Green <cmg@dok.org>
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