From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Uwe Brauer Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: font problem persists Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 18:30:04 +0100 Message-ID: <878xuze9k3.fsf@mat.ucm.es> References: <87oe51vlv7.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87br11y9ta.fsf-monnier+gnu.emacs.help@gnu.org> <87fyqdmuxo.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87br0cfos5.fsf-monnier+gnu.emacs.help@gnu.org> <87d5kfl6tb.fsf_-_@mat.ucm.es> <87vey7gcdp.fsf-monnier+gnu.emacs.help@gnu.org> Reply-To: Uwe Brauer NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1133805367 6027 80.91.229.2 (5 Dec 2005 17:56:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 17:56:07 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 05 18:56:03 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EjKWv-0001Fp-Gi for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 05 Dec 2005 18:53:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EjKX4-0007qg-5a for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 05 Dec 2005 12:53:46 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.uchicago.edu!nntp-server.caltech.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!newsfeed.news2me.com!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news.belwue.de!LF.net!quimby.gnus.org!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 26 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: maportatil10.quim.ucm.es Original-X-Trace: quimby.gnus.org 1133803805 17662 147.96.7.218 (5 Dec 2005 17:30:05 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@quimby.gnus.org Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 17:30:05 +0000 (UTC) X-Hashcash: 1:20:051205:gnu.emacs.help::i0TurjuPAaVVqu7H:0007MeZ User-Agent: Gnus/5.110003 (No Gnus v0.3) XEmacs/21.4.17 (linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:t7HNG3D1zdfUuKPLaXRavxfkPhg= Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:136079 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:31687 Archived-At: >>>>> "Stefan" == Stefan Monnier writes: Stefan> So what you're seeing is that the Hebrew and Greek chars Stefan> used in C-h H are not the same chars as the ones used in Stefan> utf-8 files (try C-u C-x = on each of those chars to see Stefan> which charset they are part of). Stefan> The Hebrew chars you see in C-h H are displayed using a Stefan> Hebrew font. The Greek chars you see in C-h H are displayed Stefan> using a Greek font. The Hebrew and Greek chars you don't Stefan> see in your utf-8 file are displayed with a Unicode font. Stefan> With Emacs-CVS ("soon" to become Emacs-22), you can set Stefan> utf-fragment-on-decoding, which should help for some of Stefan> those chars (probably the Greek chars, maybe not the Stefan> Hebrew). Ok, what I don't understand is, if I use those UTF8 fonts of http://www.m17n.org/emacs-bidi --the m17nfonts-- [1] then everything works nicely. So are these fonts not REAL UTF8 fonts, as the courier fonts I mentioned earlier? Uwe [1] which seem to be UTF8 fonts,