From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nicolas Neuss Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Debian/GFDL Date: 10 Nov 2006 18:06:53 +0100 Organization: IPM Message-ID: <878xijmdsi.fsf@ma-patru.mathematik.uni-karlsruhe.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1163180583 23199 80.91.229.2 (10 Nov 2006 17:43:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 17:43:03 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 10 18:42:59 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GiaOu-0000kw-Kd for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 18:42:49 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GiaOu-0005Jw-5J for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 12:42:48 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!inka.de!rz.uni-karlsruhe.de!news.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 20 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: ma-patru.mathematik.uni-karlsruhe.de Original-X-Trace: news2.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de 1163178323 9569 172.22.2.67 (10 Nov 2006 17:05:23 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 17:05:23 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.4 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:143007 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:38625 Archived-At: Hi, I am a long-time Emacs (12 years) and Debian (5 years) user, and I have just discovered that Emacs is without documentation on recent Debian. After some Google search, I also discovered the reason: the GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL) does not comply with the Debian guidelines, and I also found the remedy "apt-get install emacs21-common-non-dfsg". I am uncertain about which is the right direction wrt to the GFDL. I am relatively sure that RMS has put some thought and legal advice into it, and I am also not sure if simple things would work in most countries (e.g. you cannot simply give up your rights on creative works in Germany). On the other hand, I find the GDL a very complicated license which probably leads to maintenance problems later on. In any case, I find the current situation extremely annoying and think that something should be changed. However, I fear that RMS and the Debian folks are equally stubborn. Does anyone have a good idea? Nicolas