From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tim X Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: OT -- An extremely dumb curiosity question? Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 23:02:36 +1100 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <878xf4aomb.fsf@lion.rapttech.com.au> References: <87y7n8y2z4.fsf@thalassa.informatimago.com> <878xf8xlbx.fsf@thalassa.informatimago.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1171197666 24223 80.91.229.12 (11 Feb 2007 12:41:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 12:41:06 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 11 13:41:00 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HGE0p-00021Z-NC for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 13:40:59 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HGE0p-0001M7-9a for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 07:40:59 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!newsfeed.esat.net!colt.net!feeder.news-service.com!feeder3.cambrium.nl!feed.tweaknews.nl!213.132.189.1.MISMATCH!multikabel.net!feed10.multikabel.net!tudelft.nl!txtfeed1.tudelft.nl!feed.xsnews.nl!border-1.ams.xsnews.nl!sn-xt-ams-06!sn-xt-ams-10!sn-xt-ams-05!sn-post-ams-01!sn-post-sjc-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.93 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Mj73Nhv0WGcEYAvEx47Q4A9Hwgw= Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Original-Lines: 43 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:145479 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:41083 Archived-At: Pascal Bourguignon writes: > Joost Kremers writes: > >> thorne wrote: >>> But most of the web is just not very >>> fun in emacs... for me. Just not what emacs was designed for, i >>> gather. >> >> erm. you mean to say that the web wasn't designed for emacs. > > The web was designed for emacs, originally! w3m would have no > difficulty in rendering web pages written in 1994. It's later > botching of the web that loses. > Actually, its a great shame there haven't been more people willing to work on w3. This use to be a very nice emacs browser back when the web was simple. It even had the beginning of basic javascript support back nearly 10 years ago. However, it has really fallen by the way due to lack of people willing to devote time to it and the rapid evolution of the web. A great shame really as I think an elisp based web browser would be something that would allow us to add new features quite easily as well as one which could adapt reasonably quickly. There were some issues with how the code was structured and some work began to make it more modular and extensible. Unfortunatley, I've found it is now less functional than it was 8 years ago. Its a project I've still got on my "things I'd like to do someday" list. However, this list only seems to grow and I probably won't get to it until retirement (which is still too far away for my liking!). Bill, if your still reading this thread, I envy your position - I cannot wait until I am retired and can spend time working on all these sorts of projects for no other reason than they interest me. Unfortunately, the concerns of aging baby boomers and increasing tax burden on those still working means the Australian government (like many others) is tending to slowly increase the retirement age. While I expect to have enough super to not depend on a government pension, I can't see retirement arriving much before I'm 70! Tim -- tcross (at) rapttech dot com dot au