From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nic James Ferrier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Saving markup formats Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 09:03:40 +0100 Message-ID: <878xahofj7.fsf@kanga.tapsellferrier.co.uk> References: <871wgi9jzb.fsf@jidanni.org> <87odjlwpu1.fsf@jurta.org> <87ir9r1m99.fsf@jurta.org> <87myz2i9tj.fsf@jurta.org> <87r6ocx0tk.fsf_-_@jurta.org> <87vedmtnsz.fsf@jurta.org> <87vedmnvaf.fsf@kanga.tapsellferrier.co.uk> <4675A519.202@gmail.com> <87r6oafdkf.fsf@jurta.org> <87sl8qnrme.fsf@kanga.tapsellferrier.co.uk> <4675B791.6060006@gmail.com> <87ps3unqpf.fsf@kanga.tapsellferrier.co.uk> <4675BD78.5010508@gmail.com> <87hcp6nphl.fsf@kanga.tapsellferrier.co.uk> <4675C7D6.4010604@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1182157733 19050 80.91.229.12 (18 Jun 2007 09:08:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 09:08:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Juri Linkov , Oliver Scholz , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Lennart Borgman \(gmail\)" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 18 11:08:50 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1I0DEA-00017O-Ab for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 11:08:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I0DE9-0004T0-RQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 05:08:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I0DE4-0004Sj-Vd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 05:08:45 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I0DE2-0004SX-FG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 05:08:43 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I0DE2-0004SU-7i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 05:08:42 -0400 Original-Received: from owls-tree.tapsellferrier.co.uk ([81.187.188.218] helo=owls-house.tapsellferrier.co.uk) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1I0DE1-0001IJ-Oq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 05:08:42 -0400 Original-Received: from nicferrier.tapsellferrier.co.uk ([172.31.50.1] helo=localhost) by owls-house.tapsellferrier.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.60 #1 (Debian)) id 1I0C9T-0008NG-R3; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 08:59:55 +0100 Original-Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 753A3C06ED; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 09:03:40 +0100 (BST) In-Reply-To: <4675C7D6.4010604@gmail.com> (Lennart Borgman's message of "Mon\, 18 Jun 2007 01\:46\:30 +0200") X-detected-kernel: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:73227 Archived-At: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" writes: > How is that? Do you mean that a document following the schema might not > be valid as a word processor document? No. I mean that a schema might not express totally the constraints that a word processor requires. Actually, I think this is quite common. OpenOffice, last time I mucked about with the files, seemed to have some funny constraints about where the style information could go. It seemed like certain styles were possible in the document, but others weren't. The schema didn't seem to describe that stuff, it was just abritary constraints on top of what the schema specified. > Could you give me a more concrete example of what you want to do? (Or > did you give that before?) I am talking about editing a word processor file from OpenOffice or something like that and being able to edit the file in such a way that I (or someone else) can open it up in the native editor and it will work. I don't care much about WYSIWYG facilities. I just want to be able to edit it safely. -- Nic Ferrier http://www.tapsellferrier.co.uk