emacs 23 - german characters - babel/rdictcc

emacs 23 - german characters - babel/rdictcc

[Hadron]

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I can now type german characters just fine in emacs 23.

But when I invoke certain programs which talk to external processes such
as rdictcc, I get escaped characters back in the reply. e.g highlighting
"bridges" and invoking  rdictcc gives a buffer like:

,----
| DE-EN Translations:
| ===================
| 
| EN-DE Translations:
| ===================
| bridges:
|     - Brücken {pl}
|     - überbrückt
| Don't cross your bridges before you come to them.:
|     - Kümmere dich nicht um ungelegte Eier.
`----

Can anyone suggest to why this is?I am rather confused about emacs
localisation. I can type DE  chars  in the *scratch* buffer with no
problems.


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Re: emacs 23 - german characters - babel/rdictcc

[Hadron]

Hadron <hadronquark@googlemail.com> writes:

> I can now type german characters just fine in emacs 23.
>
> But when I invoke certain programs which talk to external processes such
> as rdictcc, I get escaped characters back in the reply. e.g highlighting
> "bridges" and invoking  rdictcc gives a buffer like:
>
> ,----
> | DE-EN Translations:
> | ===================
> | 
> | EN-DE Translations:
> | ===================
> | bridges:
> |     - Brücken {pl}
> |     - überbrückt
> | Don't cross your bridges before you come to them.:
> |     - Kümmere dich nicht um ungelegte Eier.
> `----
>
> Can anyone suggest to why this is?I am rather confused about emacs
> localisation. I can type DE  chars  in the *scratch* buffer with no
> problems.

Hmm. They look alright to me above

the ü was in fact (in the buffer) backslash 374

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Re: emacs 23 - german characters - babel/rdictcc

[B. T. Raven]

Hadron wrote:
> Hadron <hadronquark@googlemail.com> writes:
> 
>> I can now type german characters just fine in emacs 23.
>>
>> But when I invoke certain programs which talk to external processes such
>> as rdictcc, I get escaped characters back in the reply. e.g highlighting
>> "bridges" and invoking  rdictcc gives a buffer like:
>>
>> ,----
>> | DE-EN Translations:
>> | ===================
>> | 
>> | EN-DE Translations:
>> | ===================
>> | bridges:
>> |     - Brücken {pl}
>> |     - überbrückt
>> | Don't cross your bridges before you come to them.:

I think native speakers use only the form:
We'll cross that bridge when we come to it.

>> |     - Kümmere dich nicht um ungelegte Eier.

Isn't this "Don't count your chickens before they're hatched?"

>> `----
>>
>> Can anyone suggest to why this is?I am rather confused about emacs
>> localisation. I can type DE  chars  in the *scratch* buffer with no
>> problems.
> 
> Hmm. They look alright to me above
> 
> the ü was in fact (in the buffer) backslash 374
> 

Looks fine even on mswind98 using Thunderbird.

Re: emacs 23 - german characters - babel/rdictcc

[David Hansen]

On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 02:58:16 +0200 Hadron wrote:

> Hadron <hadronquark@googlemail.com> writes:
>
>> I can now type german characters just fine in emacs 23.
>>
>> But when I invoke certain programs which talk to external processes such
>> as rdictcc, I get escaped characters back in the reply. e.g highlighting
>> "bridges" and invoking  rdictcc gives a buffer like:

That's probably `rdictcc's (whatever it is) fault.  You can let bind
`coding-system-for-read' and `coding-system-for-write' to latin-1 to
tell Emacs to expect latin-1 encoded text from the process.

David

Re: emacs 23 - german characters - babel/rdictcc

[Hadron]

David Hansen <david.hansen@gmx.net> writes:

> On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 02:58:16 +0200 Hadron wrote:
>
>> Hadron <hadronquark@googlemail.com> writes:
>>
>>> I can now type german characters just fine in emacs 23.
>>>
>>> But when I invoke certain programs which talk to external processes such
>>> as rdictcc, I get escaped characters back in the reply. e.g highlighting
>>> "bridges" and invoking  rdictcc gives a buffer like:
>
> That's probably `rdictcc's (whatever it is) fault.  You can let bind
> `coding-system-for-read' and `coding-system-for-write' to latin-1 to
> tell Emacs to expect latin-1 encoded text from the process.
>
> David

It works fine in emacs 22 for some reason.

Re: emacs 23 - german characters - babel/rdictcc

[Hadron]

Hadron <hadronquark@googlemail.com> writes:

> David Hansen <david.hansen@gmx.net> writes:
>
>> On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 02:58:16 +0200 Hadron wrote:
>>
>>> Hadron <hadronquark@googlemail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> I can now type german characters just fine in emacs 23.
>>>>
>>>> But when I invoke certain programs which talk to external processes such
>>>> as rdictcc, I get escaped characters back in the reply. e.g highlighting
>>>> "bridges" and invoking  rdictcc gives a buffer like:
>>
>> That's probably `rdictcc's (whatever it is) fault.  You can let bind
>> `coding-system-for-read' and `coding-system-for-write' to latin-1 to
>> tell Emacs to expect latin-1 encoded text from the process.
>>
>> David
>
> It works fine in emacs 22 for some reason.
>

The following made it work. I must admit to not having a clue why - the
plethora of options for locales, coding, fonts etc is mind numbingly
complex :)

(When I say "why it worked", I never had this line before and it all just worked in
emacs 22 - so I guess it was picking up defaults from X or some such.).

(set-locale-environment "de")

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Re: emacs 23 - german characters - babel/rdictcc

[Hadron]

Hadron <hadronquark@googlemail.com> writes:

> Hadron <hadronquark@googlemail.com> writes:
>
>> David Hansen <david.hansen@gmx.net> writes:
>>
>>> On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 02:58:16 +0200 Hadron wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hadron <hadronquark@googlemail.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> I can now type german characters just fine in emacs 23.
>>>>>
>>>>> But when I invoke certain programs which talk to external processes such
>>>>> as rdictcc, I get escaped characters back in the reply. e.g highlighting
>>>>> "bridges" and invoking  rdictcc gives a buffer like:
>>>
>>> That's probably `rdictcc's (whatever it is) fault.  You can let bind
>>> `coding-system-for-read' and `coding-system-for-write' to latin-1 to
>>> tell Emacs to expect latin-1 encoded text from the process.
>>>
>>> David
>>
>> It works fine in emacs 22 for some reason.
>>
>
> The following made it work. I must admit to not having a clue why - the
> plethora of options for locales, coding, fonts etc is mind numbingly
> complex :)
>
> (When I say "why it worked", I never had this line before and it all just worked in
> emacs 22 - so I guess it was picking up defaults from X or some such.).
>
> (set-locale-environment "de")

Sorry. It works with rdictcc, but not with Babel.el

If anyone could suggest a fix (babel.el 0.3 found here :
http://www.mail-archive.com/gnu-emacs-sources@gnu.org/msg00186.html ) i
would be grateful.

Re: emacs 23 - german characters - babel/rdictcc

[Stefan Monnier]

> But when I invoke certain programs which talk to external processes such
> as rdictcc, I get escaped characters back in the reply. e.g highlighting
> "bridges" and invoking  rdictcc gives a buffer like:

Sounds like a bug in the way the `rdictcc' executable is run from Emacs
(probably incorrect coding-systems).


        Stefan