From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Change in emacsclient behavior Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 23:14:05 +0300 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <878x7ox224.fsf@jurta.org> References: <87veaw5ds5.fsf@baldur.tsdh.de> <87veatxcrz.fsf@jurta.org> <85myw4q3fq.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1188764228 5152 80.91.229.12 (2 Sep 2007 20:17:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 20:17:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 02 22:17:07 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IRvsY-0006W7-SY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 02 Sep 2007 22:17:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IRvsX-00084y-Pk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 02 Sep 2007 16:17:05 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IRvsT-00084j-IW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Sep 2007 16:17:01 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IRvsS-00084X-4v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Sep 2007 16:17:00 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IRvsS-00084U-02 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Sep 2007 16:17:00 -0400 Original-Received: from relay01.kiev.sovam.com ([62.64.120.200]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IRvsO-00010q-A2; Sun, 02 Sep 2007 16:16:56 -0400 Original-Received: from [83.170.232.243] (helo=smtp.svitonline.com) by relay01.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IRvsE-000EgZ-5y; Sun, 02 Sep 2007 23:16:54 +0300 In-Reply-To: <85myw4q3fq.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (David Kastrup's message of "Sun\, 02 Sep 2007 21\:20\:57 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/23.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Scanner-Signature: 1678f860418e8694a064f05d5e21ded6 X-DrWeb-checked: yes X-SpamTest-Envelope-From: juri@jurta.org X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Header: Not Detected X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 1426 [August 31 2007] X-SpamTest-Info: helo_type=3 X-SpamTest-Info: {HEADERS: header Content-Type found without required header Content-Transfer-Encoding} X-SpamTest-Method: none X-SpamTest-Rate: 10 X-SpamTest-Status: Not detected X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: not_detected X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0255], KAS30/Release X-Detected-Kernel: FreeBSD 4.8-5.1 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:77616 Archived-At: > I don't think that it makes sense to fantasize a whole bunch of > behaviors for emacsclient: emacsclient should be modeled to mimic > Emacs itself as closely as possible with regard to command line > options and stuff: that way, one does not need half a million of info > pages to explain how clever it is. I agree that emacsclient should mimic emacs as much as possible. Maybe even there should be a common wrapper (with a different name) for emacs and emacsclient: running it will start emacs if it is not started yet or connect to an existing Emacs server. At least, command line options shouldn't be so different as now, e.g. instead of -t, --tty better to use --no-window-system, -nw... -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/