From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: (aset UNIBYTE-STRING MULTIBYTE-CHAR) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 10:08:40 +0900 Message-ID: <878x1n6n6v.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <871w7g91dz.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <874pcctqtm.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87r6fg735c.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87odakqqtn.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <85ejbfyxfh.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1203037337 21560 80.91.229.12 (15 Feb 2008 01:02:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 01:02:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: handa@ni.aist.go.jp, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , miles@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 15 02:02:40 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JPoyN-0002s0-BV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 02:02:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JPoxt-0003u9-GB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 20:02:09 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JPoxp-0003tc-BU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 20:02:05 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JPoxm-0003t2-Kt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 20:02:04 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JPoxm-0003sz-Ew for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 20:02:02 -0500 Original-Received: from mtps02.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.224]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JPoxb-00018n-Jw; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 20:01:51 -0500 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mtps02.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EFD87FFA; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 10:01:49 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 60A8A1A29E5; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 10:08:41 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <85ejbfyxfh.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" (+CVS-20071205) XEmacs Lucid X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:89125 Archived-At: David Kastrup writes: > Richard Stallman writes: > > > While I don't consider Python as the best design by far (the lack > > of type system rules it out right away), Elisp's dynamic scoping > > mixed with buffer-local and frame-local and terminal-local > > variables is pretty horrendous, > > > > I think it is elegant. Dynamic scoping is absolutely essential for an > > Emacs-like editor, as explained in the Emacs paper from 1981. > > Shhhhh. Stefan is still in Cc, and he'll be sad to hear that his > lexbind branch can't possibly exist. No problema, amigos. From the cited paper (SIGOA 1981, 2:1-2): It is not necessary for dynamic scope to be the *only* scope rule available, just useful for it to be available. (Isn't it Miles who is maintaining the lexbind branch? But he's there, too. :-)