From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: longlines-mode Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 21:45:52 +0200 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <878x1bsce7.fsf@jurta.org> References: <87k5kvtthe.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=shift_jis Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1203796761 32627 80.91.229.12 (23 Feb 2008 19:59:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:59:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Chong Yidong Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 23 20:59:46 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JT0XA-0002fh-W4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 20:59:45 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JT0Wf-0002ew-CD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 14:59:13 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JT0Wa-0002ek-QY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 14:59:08 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JT0WX-0002dp-Ez for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 14:59:08 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JT0WX-0002dh-2r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 14:59:05 -0500 Original-Received: from relay01.kiev.sovam.com ([62.64.120.200]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JT0WW-0002Rb-QP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 14:59:05 -0500 Original-Received: from [83.170.232.243] (helo=smtp.svitonline.com) by relay01.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JT0WR-000Kp3-PJ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 21:59:02 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87k5kvtthe.fsf@stupidchicken.com> (Chong Yidong's message of "Sat, 23 Feb 2008 13:31:25 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-Scanner-Signature: 5bcd58edb95cdacf596e852bfe0375ec X-DrWeb-checked: yes X-SpamTest-Envelope-From: juri@jurta.org X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Header: Not Detected X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 2291 [Feb 22 2008] X-SpamTest-Info: helo_type=3 X-SpamTest-Info: {TO: local part of email appears in body} X-SpamTest-Method: none X-SpamTest-Rate: 9 X-SpamTest-Status: Not detected X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: not_detected X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0278], KAS30/Release X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 4.8-5.1 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:90148 Archived-At: >> - The default value of `longlines-show-effect' is >> (propertize "|\n" 'face 'escape-glyph). >> >> `M-x customize-variable RET longlines-show-effect RET' should allow >> to change only the character (e.g. `|' -> `=81=F7' =3D "PILCROW SIGN", >> "PARAGRAPH SIGN", i.e. keep the properties. >> >> Maybe splitting string and face would make it easier to customize >> it? > > Good idea. > >> - As the "old name" of `=81=F7' ("PILCROW SIGN", old name: "PARAGRAPH >> SIGN", U+00B6, 0xB6) indicates, this symbol might be more suitable >> as a default in `longlines-show-effect'. Disadvantage: Is isn't an >> ASCII character, but I'd guess that > 99% users of Emacs 22+ can >> display it fine. As `=81=F7' is more visible than `|', we might want = to >> use a smaller font as well. > > I'll play around with it and see how well it works. Maybe it would be better to use the same glyphs as were recently discussed on emacs-devel and implemented in whitespace.el? Or simply to enable whitespace-mode in longlines-mode (maybe with disabling some options unnecessary for longlines-mode)? --=20 Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/