From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: jadamson@partners.org (Joel J. Adamson) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: what's much better in eshell than eg tcsh? Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 10:57:51 -0400 Message-ID: <878wztu0pc.fsf@W0053328.mgh.harvard.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1207321161 12393 80.91.229.12 (4 Apr 2008 14:59:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 14:59:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: dkcombs@panix.com (David Combs) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 04 16:59:50 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JhnOC-0005a2-Pc for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 16:59:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JhnNa-0003Md-8n for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 10:58:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JhnMb-0002iQ-LZ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 10:57:57 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JhnMa-0002hz-Kh for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 10:57:57 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JhnMa-0002ht-GI for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 10:57:56 -0400 Original-Received: from phsmgmx9.partners.org ([155.52.251.100]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_ARCFOUR_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JhnMa-0007me-3y for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 10:57:56 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.25,604,1199682000"; d="scan'208";a="125482057" Original-Received: from phsxcon3.mgh.harvard.edu (HELO PHSXCON3.partners.org) ([132.183.130.41]) by phsmgmx9.partners.org with ESMTP; 04 Apr 2008 10:57:53 -0400 Original-Received: from PHSXMB8.partners.org ([170.223.201.47]) by PHSXCON3.partners.org with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 4 Apr 2008 10:57:53 -0400 Original-Received: from W0053328.mgh.harvard.edu.partners.org ([132.183.29.121]) by PHSXMB8.partners.org with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 4 Apr 2008 10:57:53 -0400 In-Reply-To: (David Combs's message of "3 Apr 2008 21:44:37 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Apr 2008 14:57:53.0052 (UTC) FILETIME=[42229DC0:01C89664] X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:53046 Archived-At: Although this sounds like bait, I'll try to help you. dkcombs@panix.com (David Combs) writes: > I tried it once, a few years ago, and found it difficult, > maybe even unpleasant, to use. Also never learned how > to do things I was used to do with tcsh. Eshell is for interactive use in Emacs. It's more portable than say bash, if you don't want to install Cygwin. > And why better (for programming) than bourne? It's not. Scripting in Eshell doesn't make any sense. For that you'd simply use Lisp. Eshell, IMO, is nice because you can use familiar Emacs commands as shell commands, however, I get a lot more mileage out of just using dired and Emacs in command mode (as an editor) than in Eshell. Eshell also mixes up parentheses and brackets, which I find slightly confusing. Joel -- Joel J. Adamson Biostatistician Pediatric Psychopharmacology Research Unit Massachusetts General Hospital Boston, MA 02114 (617) 643-1432 (303) 880-3109 Public key: http://pgp.mit.edu The information transmitted in this electronic communication is intended only for the person or entity to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this information in error, please contact the Compliance HelpLine at 800-856-1983 and properly dispose of this information.