From: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, Patrick Drechsler <patrick@pdrechsler.de>
Subject: Re: 23.0.60; [nxml] BOM and utf-8
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 11:30:05 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <878wy8ny36.fsf@catnip.gol.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87mymofip6.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (Stephen J. Turnbull's message of "Sun, 18 May 2008 11:29:41 +0900")
"Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org> writes:
> > is the attached xml file (simple.xml) really invalid (as indicated by
> > nxhtml) or is this a bug in nxhtml?
>
> Neither. Emacs is (arguably) reading it incorrectly.
By "arguably" I presume you're referring to the "Microsoft does <random
stupid thing>, therefore everybody who doesn't do <random stupid thing>
is thing>incorrect" tactic.
I think think it would be a lot _more_ arguable that microsoft apps
which randomly add BOM to the beginning of files where it is invalid are
broken. In general, other apps that read such files are not expecting
the BOM, and won't be able to deal with it. So Emacs wouldn't be doing
the user any favors by hiding the BOM from him.
BOM is not part of UTF-8. UTF-8 files that contain "BOM" are simply
UTF-8 files with a random weird character at the beginning.
-Miles
--
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have to take the subway to their house. And sometimes on the way, the train
is delayed and you get impatient, so you have to kill someone on the subway.
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2008-05-17 12:31 ` 23.0.60; [nxml] BOM and utf-8 Patrick Drechsler
2008-05-17 14:13 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-05-17 16:57 ` Patrick Drechsler
2008-05-17 20:38 ` Mark A. Hershberger
2008-05-21 22:20 ` Patrick Drechsler
2008-05-21 22:37 ` Patrick Drechsler
2008-05-22 1:33 ` Mark A. Hershberger
2008-05-22 14:43 ` Tom Tromey
2008-05-22 21:24 ` Miles Bader
2008-05-22 4:17 ` tomas
2008-05-22 4:33 ` Miles Bader
2008-05-22 8:28 ` Jason Rumney
2008-05-27 8:22 ` tomas
2008-05-22 17:34 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-05-23 9:05 ` tomas
2008-05-23 21:23 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-05-27 8:20 ` tomas
2008-05-18 2:29 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-05-18 2:30 ` Miles Bader [this message]
2008-05-18 3:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-05-18 4:19 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-05-18 8:56 ` Jason Rumney
2008-05-18 11:00 ` Patrick Drechsler
2008-05-19 3:11 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-05-19 14:32 ` Patrick Drechsler
2008-05-19 18:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-05-20 15:16 ` Patrick Drechsler
2008-05-18 15:19 ` joakim
2008-05-18 4:13 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-05-18 5:40 ` Miles Bader
2008-05-18 9:14 ` David Kastrup
2008-05-19 3:05 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-05-18 23:40 ` David Kastrup
2008-05-19 20:34 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-05-19 20:57 ` David Kastrup
2008-05-19 23:36 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-05-20 7:13 ` David Kastrup
2008-05-30 2:47 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-05-30 3:44 ` Miles Bader
2008-05-30 3:59 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-05-19 6:32 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-12-20 9:40 ` bug#269: marked as done (23.0.60; [nxml] BOM and utf-8) Emacs bug Tracking System
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