From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jim Meyering Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: use git, not cvs Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:36:55 +0200 Message-ID: <878wxd1sqg.fsf_-_@rho.meyering.net> References: <20080607125159.8A74F9F05B4@grelber.thyrsus.com> <20080607132037.GA21979@thyrsus.com> <20080607141452.GF1812@muc.de> <20080607152408.GG1812@muc.de> <20080607193747.GB1420@thyrsus.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1213094461 23840 80.91.229.12 (10 Jun 2008 10:41:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:41:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, Alan Mackenzie , Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: esr@thyrsus.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 10 12:41:44 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1K61IM-0000jV-6c for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:41:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34018 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K61HY-0002QE-QK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 06:40:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K61E7-0007at-FU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 06:37:19 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K61E2-0007W0-5r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 06:37:18 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=55058 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K61E1-0007Vo-Ii for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 06:37:14 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp3-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.29]:55215) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K61Dn-00060t-Mb; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 06:37:00 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp3-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp3-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9006E17B581; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:36:57 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mx.meyering.net (mx.meyering.net [82.230.74.64]) by smtp3-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CA6E17B57A; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:36:57 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by rho.meyering.net (Acme Bit-Twister, from userid 1000) id 624192F448; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:36:55 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <20080607193747.GB1420@thyrsus.com> (Eric S. Raymond's message of "Sat, 7 Jun 2008 15:37:47 -0400") Original-Lines: 21 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:98853 Archived-At: "Eric S. Raymond" wrote: ... > Well, that's one way to put it. An equally valid analysis would > be that -d ought to be the default rather than an option I've > never heard of before, and CVS is broken as designed. FYI, you can dump cvs and use git instead. At least for emacs, you *can* do that. I've been syncing a read-only git mirror to the CVS repository for many months, so you can "checkout" a copy like this: git clone git://git.sv.gnu.org/emacs The git repository should never be more than about 30-60 minutes behind the CVS one. Preparing change-sets in git and pushing them back to the cvs repository is not as painful as you might imagine, thanks to the "git cvsexportcommit" command. With a couple of simple wrapper scripts and a little easy-to-manage local policy, you might even come to find it "easy".