From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suggestion: Let the help command load autoloaded functions etc Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 07:40:37 +0900 Message-ID: <878ww1wize.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <47696238.6050601@gmail.com> <476B7BA6.80903@gmail.com> <476B990A.80602@gnu.org> <476BE7C7.2020005@gmail.com> <487DCD68.8050108@gmail.com> <86skuap092.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <487DD512.8080608@gmail.com> <86k5fmozmt.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <87k5flwt28.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <85y7417gfc.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1216247206 2378 80.91.229.12 (16 Jul 2008 22:26:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:26:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: jasonr@gnu.org, Lennart Borgman , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 17 00:27:33 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KJFTA-0007o8-OC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:27:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42168 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KJFSI-0001X6-4i for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:26:38 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KJFSD-0001Un-AO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:26:33 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KJFSB-0001SS-KD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:26:33 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=38188 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KJFSB-0001SK-GG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:26:31 -0400 Original-Received: from mtps02.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.224]:58363) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KJFS0-00031k-Ub; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:26:21 -0400 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mtps02.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7A198007; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 07:26:19 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9DAE41A25C3; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 07:40:37 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <85y7417gfc.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> X-Mailer: VM ?bug? under XEmacs 21.5.21 (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:100847 Archived-At: David Kastrup writes: > "Stephen J. Turnbull" writes: > > The file name probably has the full path, which is indeed too long. > > I don't see why it should have the full path. Maybe it's just me (or just XEmacs), but I often end up with the "wrong" library (i.e., the installed one) in the buffer, when I want one from some source tree. On reflection, this may mostly be a problem with XEmacs's separate package tree. > The autoload cookies don't usually have this info in them, so there > is no point in deriving and displaying it before the time of the > load. (locate-library "LIBNAME") is not that expensive.