From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tim X Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Anyone gone from mutt to Emacs? was: Re: Moving from Thunderbird to Emacs for mail and calendar Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:36:28 +1100 Organization: Rapt Technologies Message-ID: <878wffx0k3.fsf@lion.rapttech.com.au> References: <87d45vhcuo.fsf@mahal.sjds.teklibre.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1255416067 986 80.91.229.12 (13 Oct 2009 06:41:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 06:41:07 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 13 08:40:58 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Mxb45-00025J-Tj for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 08:40:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55060 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mxb45-0006xI-Er for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 02:40:57 -0400 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!usenet.stanford.edu!news.glorb.com!news2.glorb.com!news.astraweb.com!border2.newsrouter.astraweb.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:ie2ft3DzIsQ08X49S3jkhj6VQSE= Original-Lines: 69 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: a1acde78.news.astraweb.com Original-X-Trace: DXC=IHZ[Y\A; 3lPI56`=PQEX3]GTZPOeI\7gV\YjH=f^43; n?X Original-Xref: news.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:173820 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:68904 Archived-At: Matt Lundin writes: > Joost Kremers writes: > >> David Combs wrote: >>> Question: I use mutt on my isp-shell-account, and like it, >>> and use .1% of its capability (I think, so powerful is it). >>> Has anyone switched from mutt to emacs (temporarily or not)? >>> Comments? >> >> I did, a couple of years ago, switching to mutt+slrn to Gnus. I ended >> up switching back after a month or so. >> >> Gnus for news is fine, slrn works in much the same way, but I couldn't >> get used to Gnus' handling of email. Gnus treats every mail folder in >> the same way that it does a news group, and I simply couldn't get used >> to that. > > If I'm reading the manual correctly, you can change this behavior for > mail groups using group parameters: > > http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/gnus/Group-Parameters.html > > (See the "display" option.) > >> >> I've considered using one of the email clients for Emacs, but none >>seems to have been designed with the possibility of having more than >>one (IMAP)-server in mind. > > I believe Wanderlust can handle multiple IMAP servers. See the syntax > for adding new IMAP groups/folders: > > http://www.gohome.org/wl/doc/wl_19.html#SEC19 > The mew emacs mail client will also handle multiple imap, pop and mbox folders. VM can also do it and as mentioned, so can gnus. My experience has been 1. VM easiest to setup. Whent for a while without any development, but things have improved over the last couple of years. 2. Mew. A little harder to setup as some of the concepts were not as intuitive/familiar as I was use to. However, once setup, it works well. 3. Gnus. Quite complex to setup and takes some time to get configured exactly as you want. However, probably the most powerful client I've ever used. Steep learning curve, but probably worth the effort if you have more complex requirements. I don't use Gnus at present because I simply didn't have the need for it anymore. I now use a much simpler setup that retrieves the mail using fetchmail (I know some are critical of fetchmail, but it has worked perfectly for me for a long time. Using it avoids temporary emacs freezes that can occur with some of the mail clients when they retrieve mail). I use procmail to sort the mail and now, I can use any of the clients to read my mail. The downside of this approach is for when you have a remote imap server where you want to manage all your mail on the remote server i.e. create new remote folders, move mail between remote folders etc. I've found mew pretty good at that, but no longer have that requirement myself. Tim -- tcross (at) rapttech dot com dot au