From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Bad choice of license in BzrForEmacsDevs Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:52:09 +0100 Organization: Organization?!? Message-ID: <878wdtvfba.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <87d4399auk.fsf@red-bean.com> <87hbsl7wr0.fsf@vh213601.truman.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1259225584 30194 80.91.229.12 (26 Nov 2009 08:53:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 08:53:04 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 26 09:52:57 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NDa5v-0004UP-Jo for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:52:55 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47756 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NDa5u-00063R-TV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 03:52:54 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NDa5p-00062D-Rd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 03:52:49 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NDa5l-0005zF-C6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 03:52:49 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=41178 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NDa5l-0005z5-8K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 03:52:45 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:51212) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NDa5k-0008UA-P0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 03:52:45 -0500 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1NDa5Y-0004F7-Ul for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:52:32 +0100 Original-Received: from p5b2c2054.dip.t-dialin.net ([91.44.32.84]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:52:32 +0100 Original-Received: from dak by p5b2c2054.dip.t-dialin.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:52:32 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 20 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p5b2c2054.dip.t-dialin.net X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:XL3bON4Npw3dcwsE60uDjv555OI= X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:117811 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> In addition, I wonder about the other pages in that wiki have a >> similar license. Are there programs in the wiki which are licensed >> this way, allowing GPLv2 and not GPLv3? > >> That would be a bad problem. Can someone tell me if there are any? > > There might be some, but if they rely on Emacs-23 features, such a > license would be illegal, AFAIK. Not really. It would just be impractical since distributing this as part of an Emacs 23 distribution would not be feasible. You can of course offer any code you wrote yourself under any license you feel fit. The problem is that the distribution is then effectively not even under GPLv2 since meeting the _GPLv2_ terms is not reliably possible for _redistributors_ unless they don't distribute Emacs. -- David Kastrup