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From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Customize UI
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 12:21:17 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <878w9o6xde.fsf@lifelogs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87zl2a3b8x.fsf_-_@mail.jurta.org

On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 23:34:35 +0200 Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org> wrote: 

>> * Improving the Customize user interface (I have some working in this
>> area that I'm going to commit soon).

JL> I propose more improvements for the Customize user interface:

JL> ** Move sub-group links to the top of the Customize buffer.
JL>    This will make the group tree navigation much easier.
JL>    Most file browsers do the same: they put links to subdirectories
JL>    before links to files (in Customize, options are analogous to files,
JL>    and groups - to directories).

JL>   So UI would look like:
JL>   _____________________________________________________
JL>   Parent groups: Environment Files
JL>   Subgroups:
JL>     Dired Faces : Faces used by Dired.
JL>     Dired Mark : Handling marks in Dired.
JL>     Dired X : Extended directory editing (dired-x).
JL>     Find Dired : Run a `find' command and dired the output.
JL>     Ls Lisp : Emulate the ls program completely in Emacs Lisp.
JL>     Wdired : Mode to rename files by editing their names in dired buffers.
JL>   _____________________________________________________
JL>   Dired group: Directory editing.
JL>         State: visible group members are all at standard values.

JL>   Directory Free Space Args
JL>      Options to use when running `directory-free-space-program'.

JL>   Directory Free Space Program
JL>      Program to get the amount of free space on a file system. More

JL>   [more options...]

I like the goal (immediate visibility of the available subgroups), but
would suggest that instead of putting them first in a vertical list,
perhaps they could be arranged horizontally (wrapped as needed) by
default.  The `t' key, for instance, could toggle between a horizontal
and a vertical list; that way the user can see the details or hide them
as needed.  In a 80x25 terminal that would make a big difference to
usability, as others have mentioned.

A smaller font (80% of normal) could also be appropriate, and a
graphical indicator stamping each subgroup would be nice.

Ted





  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-03-19 17:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-10  2:22 Emacs-23 release branch Stefan Monnier
2010-03-10  4:09 ` Chong Yidong
2010-03-10  5:18   ` Jason Rumney
2010-03-10 15:23     ` Chong Yidong
2010-03-10 23:11       ` Jason Rumney
2010-03-10 23:25         ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-10  5:19   ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-10  5:58   ` joakim
2010-03-10 13:30     ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-10  7:55   ` Ulrich Mueller
2010-03-10 15:24     ` Chong Yidong
2010-03-10 17:23   ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-03-10 17:34     ` Chong Yidong
2010-03-10 17:56       ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-03-10 18:15         ` Chong Yidong
2010-03-10 17:37     ` David Kastrup
2010-03-10 17:58       ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-03-10 19:23       ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-10 19:41         ` David Kastrup
2010-03-10 21:53         ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-03-11  3:15           ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-11  4:22             ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-03-11 14:00               ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-11 18:00                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-03-11 19:04                   ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-11 19:53                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-03-11 22:09                       ` Andreas Schwab
2010-03-11 22:19                       ` James Cloos
2010-03-12  8:41                         ` bidi branch (was: Emacs-23 release branch) Eli Zaretskii
2010-03-13 18:16                           ` bidi branch James Cloos
2010-03-13 19:03                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-03-13 21:33                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-03-13 21:39                                 ` Drew Adams
2010-03-15 14:10                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-03-11 22:45                       ` Emacs-23 release branch Stefan Monnier
2010-03-12  8:46                         ` bidi branch Eli Zaretskii
2010-03-12  9:16                         ` Emacs-23 release branch Andreas Schwab
2010-03-12 15:32                           ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-10 21:22   ` Michael Albinus
2010-03-11  3:20     ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-11  4:27       ` Michael Albinus
2010-03-11 14:04         ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-11 14:30           ` Michael Albinus
2010-03-11 15:14             ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-11 16:02               ` Michael Albinus
2010-03-11 16:07                 ` Chong Yidong
2010-03-11 16:10                   ` Michael Albinus
2010-03-12 15:28                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-12 15:31                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-12 16:36                     ` Keywords (was: Emacs-23 release branch) Juri Linkov
2010-03-12 16:32             ` Emacs-23 release branch Juri Linkov
2010-03-12 18:03               ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-13 20:40                 ` secrets.el (was: Emacs-23 release branch) Michael Albinus
2010-03-14 16:37                   ` secrets.el Stefan Monnier
2010-03-20 19:32                   ` secrets.el Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-11 20:48           ` Keywords (Re: Emacs-23 release branch) Juri Linkov
2010-03-11 21:45             ` Keywords Juri Linkov
2010-03-12  1:30               ` Keywords Stefan Monnier
2010-03-14 21:33                 ` Keywords Juri Linkov
2010-03-15 21:33                   ` Keywords Juri Linkov
2010-03-19 17:25                     ` finder.el UI (was: Keywords) Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-19 22:48                       ` Juri Linkov
2010-03-22 13:30                         ` finder.el UI Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-22 14:19                           ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-22 14:29                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-22 15:08                               ` Juri Linkov
2010-03-22 16:33                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-22 16:09                               ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-22 16:36                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-22 15:07                             ` Juri Linkov
2010-03-22 17:13                             ` Drew Adams
2010-03-22 15:04                           ` Juri Linkov
2010-03-14 21:34   ` Customize UI (was: Emacs-23 release branch) Juri Linkov
2010-03-15  1:05     ` Customize UI Miles Bader
2010-03-15  1:34       ` Juri Linkov
2010-03-15  3:32         ` Miles Bader
2010-03-15 17:17     ` Chong Yidong
2010-03-15 17:34       ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-15 21:34       ` Juri Linkov
2010-03-19 17:21     ` Ted Zlatanov [this message]
2010-03-10 17:21 ` Emacs-23 release branch Eli Zaretskii
2010-03-10 17:48   ` Sven Joachim
2010-03-10 18:00     ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-03-10 19:30     ` Chad Brown
2010-03-10 19:36       ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-03-10 19:55         ` Chad Brown
2010-03-10 19:47       ` Sven Joachim
2010-03-11  3:16         ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-11  7:42           ` Sven Joachim
2010-03-11 13:35             ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-03-11 14:02             ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-10 17:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-03-10 17:59   ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-03-10 19:31     ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-10 21:55       ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-03-11  3:17         ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-10 19:44     ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-03-10 22:05       ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-03-10 22:19         ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-03-11  4:21           ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-03-11 13:42             ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-03-11 14:08             ` Stefan Monnier

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