From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thien-Thi Nguyen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Wrong type error in dbus method Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2010 11:00:53 +0200 Message-ID: <878w5qpaka.fsf@ambire.localdomain> References: <4c2d4db9.df0ae50a.241a.0135@mx.google.com> <87mxuap83w.fsf@ambire.localdomain> <87630x9c11.fsf@gmx.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1278320635 16910 80.91.229.12 (5 Jul 2010 09:03:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 09:03:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Patrick Michael Niedzielski , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Michael Albinus Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 05 11:03:52 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OVhag-0003Sp-P0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2010 11:03:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38604 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OVhaf-0003jU-WF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2010 05:03:50 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=37427 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OVhaV-0003hU-4V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2010 05:03:40 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OVhaT-0000Ta-AG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2010 05:03:38 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp204.alice.it ([82.57.200.100]:58566) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OVhaS-0000T3-Um for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2010 05:03:37 -0400 Original-Received: from ambire.localdomain (95.236.70.235) by smtp204.alice.it (8.5.124.08) id 4C1A260201294A8F; Mon, 5 Jul 2010 11:03:27 +0200 Original-Received: from ttn by ambire.localdomain with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OVhXp-0001lA-PI; Mon, 05 Jul 2010 11:00:53 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87630x9c11.fsf@gmx.de> (Michael Albinus's message of "Sat, 03 Jul 2010 10:59:06 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:126784 Archived-At: () Michael Albinus () Sat, 03 Jul 2010 10:59:06 +0200 Which information do you miss in the dbus info manual? I typed =E2=80=98i=E2=80=99 and Emacs beeped: "No index". That's a big hol= e. [If i were maintaining Emacs, i would add "all manuals have an index" as a strong requirement in admin/FOR-RELEASE (Manuals).] Re this particular problem (incorrect list construction), perhaps where it reads: All other arguments args are passed to METHOD as arguments. They are converted into D-Bus types as described in *note Type Conversion::. you could link to the Emacs Lisp manual, node "(elisp) Building Lists". I see this blurb is repeated in both Synchronous Methods and Asynchronous Methods, so another idea is to add to Overview a small section "Audience", with appropriate hints/links on Emacs Lisp programming, message bus fu, network etiquette, etc. The primary message there would be "to get the best out of this manual (& the API it describes & the peers with whom you will likely be communicating), move your mind here, first". Of course, if you are a mechanism/policy separation purist, this might chafe a bit. thi