From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Google modules integration Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 02:27:02 +0900 Message-ID: <878w3627q1.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <878w3a1x9s.fsf@keller.adm.naquadah.org> <81occ6zdnh.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1284313766 9499 80.91.229.12 (12 Sep 2010 17:49:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 17:49:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, lennart.borgman@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, carsten.dominik@gmail.com, julien@danjou.info, kjambunathan@gmail.com To: Juanma Barranquero Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 12 19:49:23 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ouqg4-0003d5-Oy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 19:49:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56045 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ouqg4-0002Yg-56 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 13:49:20 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=58684 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ouqfu-0002WI-4I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 13:49:11 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ouqft-0000CO-42 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 13:49:10 -0400 Original-Received: from [130.158.254.171] (port=54624 helo=dmail02.cc.tsukuba.ac.jp) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ouqfs-0000CI-Os; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 13:49:09 -0400 Original-Received: from imss12.cc.tsukuba.ac.jp (unknown [130.158.254.130]) by dmail02.cc.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70ECFF5F40; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 02:33:27 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from imss12.cc.tsukuba.ac.jp (imss12.cc.tsukuba.ac.jp [127.0.0.1]) by postfix.imss70 (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01EB0F4003; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 02:33:10 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mgmt1.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (unknown [130.158.97.223]) by imss12.cc.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5865F4002; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 02:33:09 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mgmt1.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id E055F3FA03B6; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 02:33:09 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BD3221A266F; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 02:27:02 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM undefined under 21.5 (beta29) "garbanzo" ed3b274cc037 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:130022 Archived-At: Juanma Barranquero writes: > On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 02:36, Glenn Morris wrote: >=20 > > =A0 =A0(b) using the Maps APIs. In this case, you understand and > > agree that =A0 =A0Google will treat your use of the Maps APIs as > > acceptance of the Terms =A0 =A0from that point onwards. > IANAL, but it seems quite fishy. Assume you argue that you used the > APIs without reading that. You really don't want to go down that road without a lawyer's advice. An argument of exactly the same form applies to the GPL. N.B. It's possible that the GPL's "distribution constitutes acceptance" is valid while Google's "use of APIs constitutes acceptance" is invalid. My point is that this depends on the details of the laws that the FSF and Google respectively cite in support of their licensing, thus the need for a lawyer.