From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tassilo Horn Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: DocView now supports OpenDocument & MS Office formats Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 08:38:38 +0100 Message-ID: <878vz1dsox.fsf@member.fsf.org> References: <87hbduhno4.fsf@gnu.org> <87sjxa2xao.fsf@member.fsf.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1294126747 1282 80.91.229.12 (4 Jan 2011 07:39:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 07:39:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: monkey@sandpframing.com, jasonr@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 04 08:39:00 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pa1Tv-0007Bb-JM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2011 08:38:59 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52523 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Pa1Tv-0006ZU-3a for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2011 02:38:59 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=36493 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Pa1To-0006ZM-Ge for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2011 02:38:53 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Pa1Tn-0001am-60 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2011 02:38:52 -0500 Original-Received: from deliver.uni-koblenz.de ([141.26.64.15]:19325) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Pa1Tn-0001aN-09; Tue, 04 Jan 2011 02:38:51 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by deliver.uni-koblenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B56CA7801698; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 08:38:49 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from deliver.uni-koblenz.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (deliver.uni-koblenz.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08108-01; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 08:38:39 +0100 (CET) X-CHKRCPT: Envelopesender noch tassilo@member.fsf.org Original-Received: from thinkpad (tsdh.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.67.142]) by deliver.uni-koblenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1592378016A8; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 08:38:39 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Mon, 03 Jan 2011 23:08:04 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at uni-koblenz.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:134246 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: Hi Richard, > > If there's another way to do the job, it might be better. > > The reason I chose unoconv/OO.org is that it required only a few lines > of elisp to allow for viewing anything OO.org can read inside emacs. > > It seems reasonable to me. In principle, writing ODF support in Emacs > Lisp would be preferable, but that's a gigantic job and it might run > too slowly. Indeed. But IMO emacs is not really a WYSIWYG editor, and doesn't want to be one anyway. But there are some tools that convert from markup languages emacs support to OpenDocument, like for example docbook2odf. > Anyway, even if this implementation is not ideal, it has the virtue of > existing. So we may as well install it. If another method is > implemented later, we could install that too. And as I've mentioned in another mail, it should also work with LibreOffice without any adaption, so it is not true that it promotes only OpenOffice.org and thus Oracle. > Is it feasible to implement of saving a buffer with formatting in ODF > using this feature? That would be really great. No. DocView is only a viewer for a large set of document formats. Internally, every page of a document is converted to a PNG image that is shown in an emacs buffer. Bye, Tassilo