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From: Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 8968@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#8968: arc-mode 7z writing support
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2011 23:20:43 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <878vs8v810.fsf@mail.jurta.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83liw8o8m4.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 08 Jul 2011 22:49:55 +0300")

>> AFAIU, 7z as a program is Free Software on GNU/Linux systems.
>
> Not AFAIK.  At least fencepost.gnu.org doesn't have 7z, but does have
> p7zip, which is a shell script.  That shell script invokes another
> shell script, called 7zr, which in turn invokes a program
> /usr/lib/p7zip/7zr.

I'd like to find the definitive answer.  On fencepost.gnu.org
7z is not installed, but for what reason?

I see that p7zip-full.deb contains 7z that handles free archives,
and there is a separate p7zip-rar.deb to handle non-free archives.

>> The program `p7zip' (a gzip like wrapper) is not suitable for using in
>> arc-mode.el on GNU/Linux.
>
> Why not?

`p7zip' is just a gzip like wrapper that just calls `7zr a -si' and
`7zr x -so' on stdin/stdout.  Such interface is not used in arc-mode.el.

> Is 7zr suitable?  If so, we should use it in preference to 7z.

There are two kinds of functionality where 7z can be used
in arc-mode.el:

1. Browse and update archives in the 7z format.

I agree that `7zr' should be preferable, and `7z' should be
used as a second option when `7zr' is not available.

2. Browse and update zip and other free archives.

Only `7z' can be used for this functionality, not `7zr'.

>> The difference between programs `7z' and `7za' is not essential:
>> one of them is just a standalone version of another.
>
> That's not what Jason said.

Jason said this about Windows.  What I see on GNU/Linux is different.





  reply	other threads:[~2011-07-08 20:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-30 21:47 bug#8968: arc-mode 7z writing support Juri Linkov
2011-07-01  2:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-07-04 22:22   ` Juri Linkov
2011-07-08  0:09     ` Juri Linkov
2011-07-08  7:08       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-08 13:06         ` Stefan Monnier
2011-07-08 18:38           ` Juri Linkov
2011-07-08 19:49             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-08 20:20               ` Juri Linkov [this message]
2011-07-09  6:28                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-09 11:34                   ` Jason Rumney
2011-07-09 13:05                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-09 11:26               ` Jason Rumney
2011-07-08 15:56         ` Jason Rumney
2011-07-08 18:39           ` Juri Linkov
2011-07-08 19:51             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-09 11:20               ` Jason Rumney
2011-07-09 22:27                 ` Juri Linkov

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