From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#9689: Contradiction in manual page "The Mark and the Region" Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 13:40:36 -0400 Message-ID: <878voqcdm3.fsf@stupidchicken.com> References: <20111007094729.GC2830@acm.acm> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1318441310 20326 80.91.229.12 (12 Oct 2011 17:41:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 17:41:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 9689@debbugs.gnu.org To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 12 19:41:45 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RE2oJ-0008Hw-SA for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 19:41:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49729 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RE2oJ-0000LJ-Fw for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 13:41:43 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:46203) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RE2oG-0000Ks-2z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 13:41:41 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RE2oE-000165-LA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 13:41:40 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:43719) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RE2oE-00015r-Gq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 13:41:38 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RE2oc-00011i-07 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 13:42:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Chong Yidong Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 17:42:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 9689 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 9689-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B9689.13184412693827 (code B ref 9689); Wed, 12 Oct 2011 17:42:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 9689) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Oct 2011 17:41:09 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RE2nk-0000zf-Fq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 13:41:09 -0400 Original-Received: from vm-emlprdomr-05.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.146]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RE2ni-0000ys-AR for 9689@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 13:41:06 -0400 Original-Received: from furball (dhcp-128-36-14-81.central.yale.edu [128.36.14.81]) (authenticated bits=0) by vm-emlprdomr-05.its.yale.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p9CHeaHr023418 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Wed, 12 Oct 2011 13:40:37 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20111007094729.GC2830@acm.acm> (Alan Mackenzie's message of "Fri, 7 Oct 2011 09:47:29 +0000") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.90 (gnu/linux) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.71 on 130.132.50.146 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 13:42:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:52594 Archived-At: Alan Mackenzie writes: > In manual page "The Mark and the Region", an "active mark" is defined as > the region being highlighted. > > Lower down the page, it says that with transient-mark-mode disabled, the > mark is always active. This use of "active" contradicts the definition > given above. > > This could be fixed by redefining "active" to mean "you can use commands > which use the mark", or something like that. > > Alternatively, one could say that with t-m-m disabled, "the mark is > always inactive, but you can always use in commands". > > Second alternative: With transient-mark-mode disabled "the region is not > highlighted at all". Thanks; I've reworded this text.