From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#7583: 23.2; ido loads tramp too eagerly Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 11:00:34 +0200 Message-ID: <878voll39p.fsf@gmx.de> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1318755688 1342 80.91.229.12 (16 Oct 2011 09:01:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 09:01:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 7583@debbugs.gnu.org To: Dave Abrahams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 16 11:01:24 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RFMaw-0001oL-KS for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 11:01:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33472 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RFMav-0005RQ-IJ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 05:01:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:54635) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RFMas-0005RA-QB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 05:01:19 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RFMar-0002gn-OY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 05:01:18 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:39653) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RFMar-0002gj-Lo for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 05:01:17 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RFMbZ-0006EO-Sv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 05:02:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Michael Albinus Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 09:02:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7583 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 7583-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7583.131875569323908 (code B ref 7583); Sun, 16 Oct 2011 09:02:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 7583) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Oct 2011 09:01:33 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RFMb6-0006DY-Fj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 05:01:33 -0400 Original-Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([213.165.64.23]) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RFMb3-0006DK-Kv for 7583@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 05:01:30 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 16 Oct 2011 09:00:38 -0000 Original-Received: from p57BB9A9D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO detlef.gmx.de) [87.187.154.157] by mail.gmx.net (mp005) with SMTP; 16 Oct 2011 11:00:38 +0200 X-Authenticated: #3708877 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18mFfAXDfcmibVDFFFMjpJ8sQ+FVAJzHZ7ysLQp3q jBCR6Vc68uEKg5 In-Reply-To: (Dave Abrahams's message of "Tue, 07 Dec 2010 12:38:46 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.90 (gnu/linux) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 05:02:01 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:52677 Archived-At: Dave Abrahams writes: Hi Dave, > This seems a bit overeager. It takes a while to load up tramp, and ido > shouldn't need to consider tramp filename completions if tramp isn't > already loaded. I (still) cannot speak about ido. But Tramp 2.2 has been rewritten for Emacs 24 to load only the minimum part at startup. More Lisp objects of Tramp have been moved to autoload files. > emacs -Q > `M-x ido-mode RET' > `C-x C-f' Running this recipe with Emacs 24.0.90, I don't see a serious delay due to Tramp. Do you still believe we need to fix something? Best regards, Michael.