From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: C-h C-b to view "Reporting Bugs" section of the manual Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 12:22:53 +0900 Message-ID: <878vgjpomq.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <41txz9pboj.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <3C645B82A25242F7AF3BE16B9CB9BCAA@us.oracle.com> <87hav9oyq3.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <9404D5B04C754DFAA8733E1027D8BDF5@us.oracle.com> <87bolgq4pb.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1337743393 2056 80.91.229.3 (23 May 2012 03:23:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 03:23:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 23 05:23:12 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SX2AI-0000LT-Dc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 23 May 2012 05:23:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43380 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SX2AH-00078x-SN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 May 2012 23:23:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:44357) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SX2AE-00078Z-HB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 May 2012 23:23:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SX2AC-0003WV-Rz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 May 2012 23:23:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mgmt1.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.223]:46948) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SX2AC-0003Rp-HG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 May 2012 23:23:04 -0400 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mgmt1.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8984A3FA0808; Wed, 23 May 2012 12:22:53 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 43DA91A31AE; Wed, 23 May 2012 12:22:53 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM undefined under 21.5 (beta31) "ginger" 5d3bb1100832 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 130.158.97.223 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:150612 Archived-At: Drew Adams writes: > In GNU Emacs -Q, `C-h C-f' is `view-emacs-FAQ'. Now there's a wasted keystroke IMHO. YMMV. > Gnu Emacs has no command `Info-elisp-ref'. Ah, the beauty of "technical differences"! > That's XEmacs, and it apparently looks only in the Elisp > manual. True. That would not be hard to generalize (in fact, it would seem you have already done the work), but it could be expensive (eg, if you generalize it to the point of checking all available Info files' nodes and indexes, which apparently some user configurations might do). > GNU Emacs has `Info-goto-emacs-command-node', which is bound to `C-h F'. Ah, XEmacs reverses those bindings (a choice I think is marginally better since Info-elisp-ref is more frequently useful and should be easier to invoke). > But it looks only in the Emacs manual, and it looks only for commands. As I say, not hard to generalize (technically; there might be substantial opposition on grounds of taste since Emacs seems to prefer narrowly-targeted commands here, also in C-h a). > Anyway, as you say: > > > Links are more discoverable > > Discoverable? Well, that's one way of putting it! No, that is the technical term for it in usability work. You know that. > Why don't you look at the thread I cited, or even at the patches? Because I'm not interested in the patch, I'm interested in improved bug reporting. If you want to advocate a general patch, fine -- but don't trash me for hewing to the topic (see subject, preserved unchanged from your post).