From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tom Tromey Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: ELPA and core services Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2012 08:38:30 -0600 Message-ID: <878vf0x63d.fsf@fleche.redhat.com> References: <87vcij7rvi.fsf@mithlond.arda> <82d34r8ej9.fsf@gmail.com> <87r4t4zr9l@ch.ristopher.com> <87hau02alo.fsf@Rainer.invalid> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1341326333 12940 80.91.229.3 (3 Jul 2012 14:38:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 14:38:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Achim Gratz Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 03 16:38:51 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Sm4Fe-0006BN-DP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Jul 2012 16:38:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36828 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Sm4Fd-00087I-Et for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Jul 2012 10:38:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58236) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Sm4FY-000864-23 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jul 2012 10:38:48 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Sm4FP-0004lJ-Ic for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jul 2012 10:38:43 -0400 Original-Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:19634) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Sm4FP-0004kj-AQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jul 2012 10:38:35 -0400 Original-Received: from int-mx02.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (int-mx02.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.12]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q63EcXrm032126 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 3 Jul 2012 10:38:34 -0400 Original-Received: from barimba (ovpn01.gateway.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.9.1]) by int-mx02.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q63EcVFg015540 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 3 Jul 2012 10:38:32 -0400 X-Attribution: Tom In-Reply-To: <87hau02alo.fsf@Rainer.invalid> (Achim Gratz's message of "Mon, 25 Jun 2012 08:01:55 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1 (gnu/linux) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 10.5.11.12 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 209.132.183.28 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:151390 Archived-At: >>>>> "Achim" == Achim Gratz writes: Achim> It may be a great idea, but even ignoring inter-package dependencies it Achim> currently doesn't really work due to the way autoloads are generated and Achim> used in both Emacs and ELPA. Emacs should use the package.el activation code for cases where a package is going to be distributed both in Emacs and separately. That was my original intent; just nobody has implemented this on the Emacs side. Tom