From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs on OS X development
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 10:45:15 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <878ve943r8.fsf@lifelogs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: D18DFFBF-2FB1-4B4F-AA34-03015F05129A@gmail.com
On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 16:04:50 +0300 Pavlo Martynenko <pavelmart@gmail.com> wrote:
PM> On 23 Jul 2012, at 21:57, Ted Zlatanov wrote:
TZ> Do you compile your own binaries, for instance?
PM> Yes.
Could you provide the configure invocation you use and the summary of
libraries used?
PM> Do you have problems with some specific network connections?
PM> Yes in slow and bad networks. It looks like after loosing some packets
PM> comes problem with C-g, and the only way was to killall -9 Emacs.
Using what package(s) to create the connections? GnuTLS or plain connections?
TZ> As far as "ugly" I have no opinion, and haven't noticed font
TZ> issues or other visual problems. The NS port's functionality has
TZ> been all right for me, especially keyboard entry,
TZ> multiprocessing, and networking.
PM> Did you noticed that NS port is just fine only for those who never
PM> tried Mac Port, and those who are not using OS X every day?
Again, I don't claim there is no problem, only that I haven't
experienced the problems others have. I would like us all to figure out
common things between our environments that contribute to the
reported instability of the NS port.
To answer your implied question, yes I have tried the Mac port, and yes
I use OS X (and the NS port on it) every day. But with the Inconsolata
font at 18 pt size, I don't see visual issues and ugliness.
I can't say I care much for dictionary definitions and two-finger buffer
switching (I use helm and `C-x b'), but I see your point and hope
Mitsuharu-san's work can benefit all Emacs users on Mac OS X
eventually. These are neat native features; my only concern is that
they take work to implement and lock users into a non-free platform.
I'd rather see features that benefit all Emacs users on all platforms.
I do think the best way forward is to merge the NS port and the Mac port
in a way that makes the NS port developers and Mitsuharu-san willing to
keep contributing. In other words, rather than trying to "pick A over
B," let's find a way to have everyone work together to improve Emacs.
Ted
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-07-24 14:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 135+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-09-12 4:06 Emacs on OS X development Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-09-12 7:23 ` Rasmus
2011-09-12 7:59 ` Glenn Morris
2011-09-13 16:37 ` Adrian Robert
2011-09-13 17:51 ` John Wiegley
2011-09-13 18:27 ` Glenn Morris
2011-09-13 18:43 ` John Wiegley
2011-09-13 18:56 ` Glenn Morris
2011-09-13 19:19 ` David Reitter
2011-09-14 1:13 ` Leo
2011-09-14 1:31 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-07-13 0:23 ` John Wiegley
2012-07-13 0:57 ` Paul Michael Reilly
2012-07-13 1:18 ` chad
2012-07-13 1:07 ` chad
2012-07-13 3:12 ` John Wiegley
2012-07-20 13:51 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-07-21 9:40 ` Pavlo Martynenko
2012-07-21 14:02 ` Michael Albinus
2012-07-24 6:39 ` Pavlo Martynenko
2012-07-25 13:11 ` Michael Albinus
2012-07-21 16:53 ` chad
2012-07-24 13:04 ` Pavlo Martynenko
2012-07-24 14:45 ` Ted Zlatanov [this message]
2012-07-25 3:00 ` John Wiegley
2012-07-25 14:41 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-07-26 22:58 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-07-29 17:58 ` Donald Curtis
2012-07-29 22:31 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-07-30 0:04 ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-07-30 3:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-07-30 4:48 ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-07-30 5:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-07-30 22:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-07-30 23:01 ` Paul Eggert
2012-07-31 1:38 ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-07-31 13:50 ` Nix
2012-07-31 15:58 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-08-02 5:16 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-08-03 21:15 ` Dave Abrahams
2012-07-31 18:31 ` Adrian Robert
2012-08-03 20:08 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-08-03 20:28 ` Adrian Robert
2012-08-05 12:51 ` Jan Djärv
2012-12-21 17:20 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-12-23 14:50 ` Jan Djärv
2012-12-24 0:23 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-12-24 10:22 ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-25 7:17 ` chad
2012-07-27 12:17 ` Pavlo Martynenko
2012-07-22 9:31 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-07-22 22:16 ` Paul Michael Reilly
2012-07-23 7:26 ` Ivan Andrus
2012-07-23 8:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-07-23 13:52 ` Paul Michael Reilly
2012-07-23 19:45 ` John Wiegley
2012-07-23 20:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-07-23 23:12 ` John Wiegley
2012-07-23 20:20 ` Paul Eggert
2012-07-23 23:13 ` John Wiegley
2012-07-23 20:46 ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-23 21:17 ` Paul Michael Reilly
2012-07-23 21:28 ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-23 23:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-07-24 6:25 ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-24 8:36 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-07-25 7:27 ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-25 8:15 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-07-24 9:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-07-25 7:38 ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-24 16:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-07-25 7:43 ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-23 23:15 ` John Wiegley
2012-07-23 23:40 ` chad
2012-07-23 21:45 ` chad
2012-07-23 23:00 ` John Wiegley
2012-07-24 1:13 ` Leo
2012-07-23 18:57 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-07-13 3:28 ` Le Wang
2012-07-13 10:02 ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-13 10:45 ` Ivan Andrus
2012-07-14 8:39 ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-13 12:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-07-13 14:00 ` René Kyllingstad
2012-07-13 17:48 ` John Wiegley
2012-07-13 18:16 ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-13 19:07 ` Glenn Morris
2012-07-13 19:54 ` John Wiegley
2012-07-13 20:12 ` Paul Michael Reilly
2012-07-13 20:32 ` Ivan Andrus
2012-07-13 21:04 ` John Wiegley
2012-07-13 21:44 ` chad
2012-07-13 22:30 ` John Wiegley
2012-07-14 10:35 ` Sudish Joseph
2012-07-14 9:00 ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-14 22:56 ` John Wiegley
2012-07-15 0:54 ` Chong Yidong
2012-07-15 2:45 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-07-15 3:40 ` John Wiegley
2012-07-15 13:12 ` Paul Michael Reilly
2012-07-15 17:50 ` chad
2012-07-15 21:20 ` Donald Curtis
2012-07-15 21:34 ` Donald Curtis
2012-07-15 22:11 ` chad
2012-07-15 22:22 ` David Reitter
2012-07-18 0:16 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-07-18 2:56 ` John Wiegley
2012-07-18 3:42 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-07-18 8:21 ` Pavlo Martynenko
2012-07-18 20:43 ` Donald Curtis
2012-07-18 21:03 ` chad
2012-07-19 8:12 ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-18 17:19 ` Richard Stallman
2012-07-19 13:31 ` Pavlo Martynenko
2012-07-15 22:19 ` David Reitter
2012-07-16 2:20 ` Richard Stallman
2012-07-17 10:18 ` Pavlo Martynenko
2012-07-17 12:14 ` William Stevenson
2012-07-15 21:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-07-13 17:48 ` John Wiegley
2011-09-14 2:21 ` chad
2011-09-14 3:00 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-09-14 12:54 ` Jan D.
2011-09-13 19:51 ` Jan Djärv
2011-09-13 19:57 ` Adrian Robert
2011-09-13 20:33 ` Jan Djärv
2011-09-13 20:05 ` Richard Stallman
2011-09-13 21:47 ` John Wiegley
2011-09-14 1:59 ` Richard Stallman
2011-09-14 2:09 ` John Wiegley
2011-09-14 14:10 ` Richard Stallman
2011-09-14 14:30 ` Stephen Eilert
2011-09-14 18:06 ` Glenn Morris
2011-09-15 4:11 ` Richard Stallman
2012-07-13 1:14 ` Samuel Bronson
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