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From: Tom Tromey <tromey@redhat.com>
To: sds@gnu.org
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: threads and kill-buffer
Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2012 12:28:09 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <878vcoqq86.fsf@fleche.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87mx148sao.fsf@gnu.org> (Sam Steingold's message of "Wed, 05 Sep 2012 10:20:47 -0400")

>>>>> "Sam" == Sam Steingold <sds@gnu.org> writes:

Sam> It is a certain way to lose data: imagine thread T1 moving data from
Sam> buffer B1 to buffer B2 and thread T2 killing one of these buffers.

We may eventually need a mechanism to let a thread lock a buffer.  This
kind of thing is harder than it seems.  For example, in your scenario,
you'd presumably want to lock both buffers -- but then you can easily
end up in deadlocks.

Anyway, as Eli said, this particular question is really just about a
single case, of kill-buffer and current_buffer.

Due to the current implementation, right now threads only present a few
problems not already possible with process filters.  For example, your
scenario is possible already.

I'm not trying to minimize the problems you point out; just to defer
them.  The current_buffer thing came up because it is a new problem
arising from the concurrency changes, and one that I think we need to
solve before the branch can be merged.

I'll send a note soon about the other problems in this category.

Tom



  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-09-05 18:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-04 20:36 threads and kill-buffer Tom Tromey
2012-09-04 20:43 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2012-09-04 21:03 ` Paul Eggert
2012-09-05  2:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-09-05 14:20   ` Sam Steingold
2012-09-05 16:35     ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-09-05 16:50       ` Sam Steingold
2012-09-05 16:54         ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-09-05 19:19         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-09-05 20:34           ` Tom Tromey
2012-09-06  0:20             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-09-06  1:53               ` Tom Tromey
2012-09-06  8:34                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-09-05 18:13     ` Stefan Monnier
2012-09-05 18:28     ` Tom Tromey [this message]
2012-09-05 19:14       ` Stefan Monnier
2012-09-05 18:20   ` Tom Tromey
2012-09-05 19:00     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-09-05 19:10       ` Tom Tromey
2012-09-05 19:50         ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-09-05 20:48           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-09-06  5:16             ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-09-06  9:22               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-09-06 10:58                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-09-07  1:26                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-09-05 20:25         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-09-05 19:45       ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-09-05 19:46     ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-09-06  2:28       ` Stefan Monnier
2012-09-06  5:24         ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-09-06 12:32           ` Stefan Monnier
2012-09-05  3:49 ` SAKURAI Masashi
2012-09-05  4:34 ` Dmitry Antipov
2012-09-05  9:44   ` martin rudalics
2012-09-05 16:28     ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-09-06  7:19       ` martin rudalics
2012-09-06  7:56         ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-09-06 14:41           ` martin rudalics
2012-09-06 14:55             ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-09-06 16:04               ` martin rudalics
2012-09-06 17:07                 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-09-06 17:37                   ` martin rudalics
2012-09-06 18:22                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-09-06 19:25                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-09-07  9:52                       ` martin rudalics
2012-09-06 21:28                     ` Stefan Monnier
2012-09-07  9:52                       ` martin rudalics
2012-09-07 14:44                         ` Stefan Monnier
2012-09-07 16:13                           ` martin rudalics
2012-09-07 18:31                             ` Stefan Monnier
2012-09-06 20:49             ` PJ Weisberg
2012-09-07  5:52               ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-09-07 15:28                 ` PJ Weisberg
2012-09-08 14:58                   ` Nix
2012-09-08 15:21                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-09-08 19:45                     ` Stefan Monnier
2012-09-05 13:41 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-09-05 14:34   ` Tom Tromey

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